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    Quote Originally Posted by Endless Flight View Post
    Didn't Joe Q state somewhere that he started reading comic books when he was around 18 or 19? I know for sure he stated that he never thought there were 13 year old fans out there at any time since the 1960s, which is preposterous.

    Obviously, because he himself started reading later than most, that would mean everyone else did.
    Personal experiences do color one's outlook -- but I find it hard to believe Joe Q has ever said point blank that kids don't read comics. I can believe he might have said words to the effect kid's aren't comics primary audience anymore.
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    I started reading Spider-Man when I was 9. That was 1990. Pete and MJ were already married. I never had a problem relating to a married Spider-man. I spent every penny of my allowance (and later a good sum of my earnings) on a married Spider-Man.

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    Spiderman will go back to normal when I get the power of the geass and use it to claim with editor of chief seat with no opposition and rule a mighty dictorship on marvel. then when the other authorities in Marvel try anything, I just use my geass and Say OBEY ME, they will go "yes your highness"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Why would I? He is talking about a belief as opposed to an emperical.
    He's stating that Quesada has a belief without providing any evidence that Quesada has that belief.

    How should I have interpretated your original statement?
    Honestly, I believed I was being clear by specifically choosing the word "identify", so I was surprised that you (and others) took that to mean "like".

    True enough. My apologies.
    Appreciated.

    Because it is not on me to prove your conclusion. And the only opinion I've offered in regards to this is that I don't believe Reed and Sue were created as characters which kids wouldn't be able to relate to.
    And I drew a conclusion based on the existing evidence.

    But I wasn't the one offering up the initial absolute.
    Fair point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endless Flight View Post
    Didn't Joe Q state somewhere that he started reading comic books when he was around 18 or 19? I know for sure he stated that he never thought there were 13 year old fans out there at any time since the 1960s, which is preposterous.

    Obviously, because he himself started reading later than most, that would mean everyone else did.
    He said something to that effect shortly after becoming EiC (I believe it was that he didn't think eight year olds were ever the main audience for Marvel), but he's stated since then that Marvel Adventures Spider-Man is (or was) Marvel's biggest subscription book, and that that title and the other MA books are aimed at kids, so it seems likely that his original position has either changed or that he doesn't believe it applies to things as they currently stand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicjuce View Post
    Are we ever going to stop bitching about the lack of the marraige and get back to talking about the current issues in Spider-Man?
    We do both equally well here and sometimes simultaneously. For instance, "that story was pretty good, but would have been better if Pete were still married to MJ."

    I know your all going to say this is a current issue but we've already beatin' it too death. Then we shocked it back to life and beat it some more.
    See Norman Osborn. Harry Osborn. Gwen Stacy. The Clone Saga. Spider-fans don't forget anything. All issues are current.

    I think CBR should make a sub forum for all complaining about the Spider' marraige being gone. I've significantly dropped off my posting in this forum and most days only go the games forum in hopes of an exciting conversation.
    Good for you. But I suggest that if you want an exciting conversation you should start one. People here are remarkably intelligent and civil if you give them a chance. Regardless of their opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docholiday504
    I started reading Spider-Man when I was 9. That was 1990. Pete and MJ were already married. I never had a problem relating to a married Spider-man. I spent every penny of my allowance (and later a good sum of my earnings) on a married Spider-Man.
    Same here. Literally. I was 9 years old in 1990 as well, and I was also really getting into Spidey at that point. I really didn't care about relating to him, since even if he was a teenager I still wouldn't have been able to relate to him since he would still have been older than me and dealing with problems I wasn't going to deal with for a while. I was more interested in Spidey fighting bad guys, his cool costume, and who was drawing the book. Relating to the character was irrelevant at that point for me.

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    I was 3 in 1990, still exploring the workings of my body in public, most to my mother's chargin.

    When will Spidey get back to normal? In 20 years time when an editor wants them married again, annoying people, who will claim that he is a pathetic fan boy crying for a bygone era. People will discuss the great works of Slott, Wells, Deery etc as the definitive Spider-Man. They will project their opinions onto others and assume because they and their two friends agree, the world wide Spider-fan base is in a concensus that the marriage will ruin Spider-Man.

    And people will shout at Deery and co to save them and I will whisper, "This parody was past it's sell by date in 1988."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Deery
    I was 3 in 1990, still exploring the workings of my body in public, most to my mother's chargin.

    When will Spidey get back to normal? In 20 years time when an editor wants them married again, annoying people, who will claim that he is a pathetic fan boy crying for a bygone era. People will discuss the great works of Slott, Wells, Deery etc as the definitive Spider-Man. They will project their opinions onto others and assume because they and their two friends agree, the world wide Spider-fan base is in a concensus that the marriage will ruin Spider-Man.

    And people will shout at Deery and co to save them and I will whisper, "This parody was past it's sell by date in 1988."
    Oh, please. Like something that far fetched would ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Deery View Post
    I was 3 in 1990, still exploring the workings of my body in public, most to my mother's chargin.

    When will Spidey get back to normal? In 20 years time when an editor wants them married again, annoying people, who will claim that he is a pathetic fan boy crying for a bygone era. People will discuss the great works of Slott, Wells, Deery etc as the definitive Spider-Man. They will project their opinions onto others and assume because they and their two friends agree, the world wide Spider-fan base is in a concensus that the marriage will ruin Spider-Man.

    And people will shout at Deery and co to save them and I will whisper, "This parody was past it's sell by date in 1988."
    You make me feel really OLD, I was the father of two before 1990

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikekerr3 View Post
    You make me feel really OLD, I was the father of two before 1990
    So was I. I make quick work

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDMacQ View Post
    Oh, please. Like something that far fetched would ever happen.

    Well thank you for dashing my dreams of becoming a comic book writer. Hey there's a blind kid over, why don't you tell her that there's a great rainbow that she will never see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Deery
    Well thank you for dashing my dreams of becoming a comic book writer. Hey there's a blind kid over, why don't you tell her that there's a great rainbow that she will never see.
    Sorry. I'm too busy getting ready to drive a busload of underprivileged kids to the gates of Walt Disney World, only to turn back the second we get there by telling them that we don't have enough money to get in.

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    If Ben Reilly is truly returning or if it's just another clone or perhaps even a Peter or Ben from a parallel universe I think Marvel should hook him up with Mary Jane and then give both characters their own book.



    That probably would've been the plan if the switch worked in the past. Now they can have Mary Jane truly be with a clone and Peter can remain single.

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    Spidey went back to normal in Jan 2008. But I guess it was so long since it had been normal that some would ask themselves that question.

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