DC/Marvel merger?

[Frostbite883]

I can see The Punisher going after Lex Luthor, while he's a
candidate for presidency, but Superman would certainly not let
Frank Castle (Punisher) off Luthor whether he wins the presidency or not.

And of course, Batman will also be with Supes to stop Frank from
assassinating the sneaky ratbag as well.

In the end, Supes would convince Frank that he, Bats
and others will handle taking Luthor down, but they'll do
it the right way. And even if Luthor, they'll still continue
to turn the tide on Lex anyway they can.

Out of respect for Supes, Frank decides not to go through
killing Luthor and let him and others handle the ratbag.

This story is likely to happen in either a Superman comic book
or another comic book series.

[Froggy]

I can see a What if? story involving Victor Von Doom
(before he became Doctor Doom) becoming
earth's Green Lantern instead of Hal Jordan.

It would probably go like this.

As Victor von Doom is struggling to stay alive in the cold weather
of a snowy mountain, a space ship crashes there and afterwards
von Doom went inside the ship only to find an outer-worldly being
named Abin Sur inside it. Abin gave Victor the Green Lantern power
ring and it actually worked for Doom. When Abin Sur died, The Guardians
got Victor to come to them and appointed him Green Lantern of Sector
2814. The Green Lantern called Sinestro became Doom's instructor on
the know-hows of the GL ring, the GL Corps and the rules that the
Guardians placed for Green Lanterns. Also, Doom would use his
status as a Green Lantern to his advantage. And it's possible
that Sinestro & Victor von Doom might see each other as kindred
spirits.

I can see Doom betraying Sinestro by outing him out on his dictatorship
on his own planet (which would let the Guardians to send Sinestro to
the Anti-Matter Universe planet called Qward). The reason Doom
had outed his former mentor was because he either wanted Sinestro
out of the way, incase the Korugian GL would want to 'share' Victor's
success on gaining more power from the Central Power Battery, and/or
he wanted the Guardians to trust him like they'd trusted Sinestro, if not more so.

Or maybe Sinestro would've outed himself because it a part
of a plan he and Victor von Doom had set up in order for
both of them to attain what they've wanted all along.

I could see Doom using Hal Jordan, John Stewart & Guy Gardner, the
potential GLs who would take Doom's place if necessary, as his and
Sinestro's pawn for the other step in their plan on the elimination
of the heroes of earth, the Green Lantern Corps and anyone else
who'd stand in the way of their ultimate plan.

Doom eventually gained the Guardians trust, in that, they told him
the know-hows of Ion and sooner or later Doom use this secret, that
he'd been told by the Guardians, to his advantage as he'd made his
way to get the power of the Central Power Battery on OA. Victor
would then kill the Guardians, the GL Corps and destroying
the Central Power Battery, but not before taking several GL
rings of the slaughtered Green Lanterns to unlock the multiple
seals and keys of the Power Battery and getting pass the other
precautions.

So with the power of the CPB, Doom then takes his sights on earth.

Meanwhile, it'd be revealed that Hal, John & Guy were
brainwashed/mind-controlled (somehow, someway) into serving
Sinestro & Doom. Three potentials GLs would had been equipped
with yellow power rings, would know some of the earth's
costumed crusaders' secrets (somehow, someway) in order
to defeat them and they would be aided by the Weaponeers
of Qward from the anti-matter universe.

Heck, maybe after defeating anybody who'd stand in their
way, Doom would've destroy Sinestro for one reason or
another (or two, maybe).

In this the end though, the writer of this story would've either had
Doom not only dominating all the planets and their galaxies and
rewriting history afterwards to how he'd want it to be or the writer
would've had Kyle Rayner, with his own GL ring, kicked Doom's kister in that What if? story.

Well, that's my possible theory involving this scenario.

Can anybody else here think of another What if? comic
book issue that'll be made if this scenario took place?

this would be a cool idea, but I'd like for the end to have Kyle Rayner, being forced to paint a picture of "Emperor Doom" in his new empire with Ganthet escaping Doom's grasp to give him the last green lantern ring, and tells him to "Find the Zero Hour" or something


I think a great What if would be Generation J=Gen x and Young Justice

instead of emma frost and banshee leading young x-men, they raise the heroes of the future.

[Frostbite883]

I think a great What if would be Generation J=Gen x and Young Justice

instead of emma frost and banshee leading young x-men, they raise the heroes of the future.

That'll be a cool idea. It'd establish Emma & Sean "Banshee" Cassidy to the
DC/Marvel merged universe proper by them (and their students) interact
with heroes and heroines such as the New Warriors, the Titans, the JLA, etc.

Who knows. Maybe some writer would've had the Tim Drake/Jubilee
romance continue after the Big Two universes are joined?

And for that matter, Captain America would've either
hook up with Wonder Woman, courted Lady Blackhawk
or he'd hook up with Wonder Woman first, but when their relationship
doesn't work out (or something), Capt. A & Wondy would break up and
sooner or later he'd start courting Zinda "Lady Blackhawk" Blake.

Can't you just see the fanfics that'll erupt with Cap/Wondy and/or Cap/Lady BH?

[Frostbite883]

I certainly know that if this scenario took place then there wouldn't have
been any reason for Sentry (Robert Reynolds) to exist in the merged
comic book imprint because Superman would now co-exist with the DC
and Marvel characters after the two fictional universes merged together.

Which means that instead of creating a Superman hoax character, Paul Jenkins
would've possibly made another hoax character that's sort of an anolog character
based on a DC or Marvel hero (or villain).

[Frostbite883]

Contest of Champions II - The CoC II storyline would've probably still
been created back in '99 only this time various DC characters would be
entering the competition as well (albeit also getting abducted and
brainwashed by the Blood for their own purposes).

Millennium Giants - This '98 comic storyline would've probably still existed in the merged
comic book imprint and it'd probably be more or less the same as it is now.

Genesis - I doubt that John Byrne, Joe Rubinstein & Ron Wagner wouldn't
have created that '97 limited weekly series and crossover storyline because, as
I've posted before, the Celestials would be responsible for having certain
beings from other planets to reach their evolutionary peak including the inhabitants of earth itself ages ago, not the Godwave concept.

Since that's the case then it wouldn't have existed and if it
did then John, Joe & Ron would create a storyline that'll warrant
the Godwave to become a part of the comic book story's plotline.

Like, for instance, the Celestials (or just one Celestial) would use their
combined ability called the Godwave to annihilate certain races that they've
deemed unworthy to exist and those particular interstellar races are fighting
back against these near-powerful beings with earth's superpowered
inhabitants soon getting stuck in the middle of the conflict.

Or maybe John, Joe & Ron would make a mini (or whatever) that'd be somewhat similar to how the Genesis storyline and limited series is like today.

[stemzandseedz]

It's quite possible that one day they could merge and get away with it especially with the amount of money movies & merchandise are making these days. All the lawyers would have to do is point to Dark Horse & Image to prove they wouldn't have the entire market on lock down and it could be approved; just look at a beast like Clear Channel as a perfect example of how sometimes companies are literally allowed to run wild whether their competitors like it or not ...

Marvel is supposed to be so much more iconic than DC, but yet Marvel went bankrupt, not DC. That's what I found so interesting.

As for the merger, now that Marvel is out of bankruptcy, I don't think the US Justice Department would allow it, because it would be a monopoly. At least that's my understanding.

[Ziggy Stardust]

IMO, Dick Grayson and Peter Parker would/should be buddies, both in costume and not.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Also, I would pay BIG BUCKS for a JSA/Invaders story.

[GHalecki]

I would say with the utmost confidance that the proposal od a merged Marvel DC would NOT be blocked on the basis of it being a potential monopoly.

When the WWE purchased WCW, they showed that there was still competition in the marketplace, because parts of the southwest got Lucha Libre broadcasts over the air from Mexico. (From my understanding and recollection)

Assuming the time frame of 1995 as someone quoted earlier, there was plenty of other companies in the mix, particularly Dark Horse and Image. I think Valient and Malibu were both out there pretty strong at that time (although I might be thinking about a couple years earlier though), as well as a zillion small press outfits.

However, it would certainly been in effect a practical Monopoly though. And that is almost universally bad for any industry. Prices go up, service and quality go down, and variety shrinks.
Look at what happened with the Diamond monopoly and how bad it has been for the industry.

[Frostbite883]

Infinity Abyss - If the AC imprint allowed Jim Starlin to produced this mini-series in 2002 then it'll probably
involve both some Marvel and DC characters (or at least a few DC characters).

Our Worlds at War - If this comic book crossover event were to
appear back in 2001 in the AC imprint then it's likely to feature
Galactus as the antagonist of that storyline. The plot would involve
the Big G using a new vastly, technilogical device to "devour" more
than one planet all at once and now it's up to inhabitants from different
worlds (including those from earth) to stop Galactus before he's eaten
every planet in existence. The crossover event would point out hints that
Galactus may've been responsible for Superman's planet, Krypton, being
destroyed years ago, it'll also, have one or more intersteller races
homeless because their planets were eliminated by Galactus and
Galactus (and possibly another major villain) would be annihilated following
the conclusion of the storyline.

Or maybe OWAW would probably have the Celestials
as the antagonists of this crossover storyline with either
one or none of those space-faring cosmic powered giants
being eliminated.

Sins of Youth - If this comic crossover event had still been produced on
May 2000 (like it had been in reality) then it'll either involve the JLA, the Marvel
Family, the Avengers and other superteams, originally from both the Marvel & DC
universes, getting their ages switched by Klarion's spell and finding
a way to return to their normal ages, the JLA, JSA, Titans, the Marvel
Family & Young Justice would've been the only heroes to get
their ages switched and the Avengers, and probably with other
"Marvel" heroes, would be the ones to capture the age changed superteams or
the crossover event would just involve the X-Babies and some kid-like clones of
both superheroes and supervillains of the AC 'verse such as Superman,
Doctor Doom, Spider-Man, the Joker, etc.

[Frostbite883]

Here are a few theories of the relationships between two heroes originally from two worlds.

Vision & Red Tornado - I can see them having certain things in common especially
when it comes to being like human beings.

Nightwing, Flash & Spider-Man - I can see Dick Grayson & Spidey meeting each other
(back when Grayson was Robin) for the first time either in Gotham or NYC. They could
become good friends.

Heck, it's possible that Spider-Man be invited to join the Teen
Titans either as a active, reserve and/or an honorary member of the team.

Dick Grayson/Nightwing might be the mediator between his
super buds, Peter Parker/Spider-Man & Wally West. The latter two heroes
would be jealous of each other because each of them believe that N. Wing
favors the other to the point that they would start to bicker, make smart alec
remarks and/or jokes towards one another. But, overtime (sooner or later) they'll become friends too.

I can also see Nightwing feeling down because he lost the love of his life, or his beloved
have dumped him, and Spidey would do anything and/or everything he can to cheer his friend up.

[Frostbite883]

Infinite Crisis (and the follow-up minis and one-shots) - This 2005 seven-issue
limited series would've still kicked off with the Countdown to
Infinite Crisis one-shot and that DC Comics one-shot would also lead to
four six-issue minis (as well as another follow-up mini-series called
DC Special: The Return of Donna Troy).

And it's possible that House of M would also be a folow-up to IC. Why? I'll tell you why.

It's possible that if Infinite Crisis did came out in Action Comics before
the House of M miniseries then maybe TPTB could've had that mini
to become a lead-up series bridged from Countdown to Infinite Crisis
just like the others (such as Villains United and Day of Vengeance), but
HoM'll also still be a follow-up to Planet X and Avengers Disassembled.

It'll be revealed, in Infinite Crisis, that Alexander Luthor, Jr. of Earth-Three
was responsible for not only the altered reality that the Scarlet Witch
created, but also the Avengers Disassembled event by changing his
appearance to resemble Quicksilver and manipulated SW to make
Iron Man feel drunk without him drinking any wine or beer, having
She-Hulk rear her savagery again, forming two Ultrons from
the Vision and do other stuff that'll devastate and/or distract
the heroes.

Alexander would then try use Scarlet Witch to eliminate the
heroes and heroines, but she'll fight back against him and
in the end, something will happen that will have most
mutants, metahumans or any other beings to lose their
special powers and/or abilities.

It's possible that the last pages in the HoM mini will
reveal that the superbeings losing their powers/abilities and
the energy from the depowered beings from the new mainstream
universe (among other things) was apart of his plan that's taken place.

The House of M miniseries would probably have
other comic books spining off like in our reality
or the event from that mini would follow up in
Uncanny X-Men, X-Men and/or in any other X-title
series that the AC imprint would've produce.

The Rann-Thanagar War mini would've been known as
The Rann-Kree (or The Kree-Rann) War and that storyline
could've involve the Rannians going to war against Kree
instead of the Thanagarians. Also, this mini would probably
still be a continuation of storylines from two other limited
series such as Adam Strange: Planet Heist and Green Lantern: Rebirth.

I can definitely see Doctor Strange in Day of Vengeance (as well as other former DC & Marvel characters).

I can see Doctor Doom being the one to form his own incarnation of
the Secret Six during the Villains United miniseries or, at least, being
the new leader of the Secret Society of Super Villains during the mini.

Er, or maybe Doom could do that by taking Lex Luthor's spot as
the top dog of the new SSoSV crew.

Oh, and I can also see Doctor Doom working with Alexander
& Superboy-Prime for one reason or another, but Doom would
have a hidden motive himself for joining forces with those two
young heroes turned villains.

The OMAC Project would've probably feature more than
one former Marvel character in that comic series.

And I can see the DC Special: The Return of Donna Troy mini being somewhat the same as it is now.

The cause for the altered changes in the AC universe continuity
after the IC ended would've either been caused by SBP's
attempted punching toward the extradimensional space in which
he had been trapped in since the Crisis on Infinite Earths (along
with Earth-Two Kal-L & Lois Lane and Alexander Luthor, Jr. of
Earth-Three) or by the separation or re-merging of alternate earths.

And it's possible that the Spider-Man: The Other mini, if it had existed in this
scenario, would be discarded out of continuity and some (or most) plotlines
from the S-M storyline, The Clone Saga.

Identity Crisis/Avengers Disassembled - It's possible that ID Crisis would be
published first in 2004 and Avengers Disassembled would've either been
published in '04 or a later year. Or maybe, both of those story arc events
would still get published in '04.

I believe ID Crisis would feature both the former DC & Marvel heroes and heroines
as they rally to solve the murder of a longtime supporting comic book character
and find the murderer.

It'll definitely feature the Web-Head (Spider-Man).

Not only would Dr. Light receive a mind-wipe and altered personality
from Zatanna, but villains such as the Shocker & Chameleon would've
also gotten the same treatment as he did.

It's possible that Justice League would've actually been the ones to wipe
Harry Osborn's memories of his time as the Green Goblin and knowing
Peter Parker's double life as Spider-Man, but the League wouldn't alter
Harry's mind like they did with any other villain.

Peter/Spidey would either be clueless on how he feels about the JLA's
dirty laundry, become angry over what the League have done, become
frighten over this revelation or he'll become both confused, angry and hurt
over the Justice League's actions.

And it'll certainly be a long time before Spidey ever respect,
trust and forgive the members of the League (especially Superman
because he didn't do anything to stop the League's methods they've
performed on many villains in the past) during and after the Identity Crisis mini-series is over.

But, certainly doubt the JL would ever, ever have Zatanna mind-wipe the monarch of Latveria, Doctor Doom
for obvious reasons that'd make sense.

As for Avengers Disassembled, it'll probably be the same like it is now in reality.

Standoff - This 2003 comic book storyline would probably still start off in Thor (vol. 2) #58
continued in Iron Man (vol. 3) #64 and concludes in Avengers (vol. 3) #63.

Heck, maybe this story arc would've had one (or a few) former DC character(s) there too.

[shades of eternity]

If it did happen, man I wish justarandomguy is involved in directing the material.

[Frostbite883]

I can see The Comedian (from The Watchmen) & Marv (from Sin City)
in justsomerandomguy's "I'm a AC and I'm a Dark House" skit in this
scenario.

As well as Spider-Man doing a comedic skit with the red horned guy himself (I'm not talking about the Devil here).

[Frostbite883]

It's possible that the last pages in the HoM mini will
reveal that the superbeings losing their powers/abilities and
the energy from the depowered beings from the new mainstream
universe (among other things) was apart of his plan that's taken place.

Oh, I forgot to mention that Alexander would possibly use all that energy to either
create a new being to fight against anybody from that'll stand in his way and ruin
his (and Superboy Prime's) plan or Alex Luthor Jr. would use the energy to power-up
a inter-dimensional turning folk (which he've created) to re-create many alternate
earths just so he can create a perfect one.