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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyredlady View Post
    I'll have to check that out....but the thing that hit me was doing Midsummer gangster style; with oberon as the godfather type and robin as a wiseguy....the dialog would just be hilarious...
    Pibgorn did Midsummer a bit like that. I'm not sure how close it would be to your idea though.

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    only if they're leaning toward the sopranos....and there wouldn't be any governmental type influences either....in fact I was kinda thinking it would probably involve the fairies more than anything else. It'd be set in New York City Central Park (one of those tunnels could provide a handy portal to a faerie realm) and wouldn't it be awkward if Nick was (ahem) a wannabe Broadway performer with "alternative preferences" and no talent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    Being european I grew up with them. There's too much to mention.
    Thorgall, Eric the viking,Tom Poes, Douwe Dabbert, Argonauten, the duistere steden series, metabarons, Moebius. Stuff worth reading.
    Since when do you speak dutch?

    Douwe Dabbert vond ik vroeger verschrikkelijk in de Donald Duck. Een gruwel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by End of Time View Post
    Since when do you speak dutch?

    Douwe Dabbert vond ik vroeger verschrikkelijk in de Donald Duck. Een gruwel.
    Ik ben nederlands :p.

    Douwe Dabbert past niet echt in de Donald Duck maar het teken werk is erg goed. Kwaliteit van het verhaal zelf verschilt per boek.

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    Anyone know any fast ways to make money with art?
    Desperate for money but waiting around for potential clients to react to the rates I quote is taking too long right now for my taste, especially when most assignments won't pan out anyway. Either they don't like the rates, they found someone else or they cancel the project half way through. Need money today instead of tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End of Time View Post
    here's another topic for debate...

    How many of you are reading European comics, or would consider reading them?
    I don't generally buy European Comics, but I Pick up an Issue of Heavy Metal from time to time. Lot's of good European artists and storytellers. Some I considered picking up the collected stories, or sketchbooks.

    And not just because of the nudity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    Anyone know any fast ways to make money with art?
    Desperate for money but waiting around for potential clients to react to the rates I quote is taking too long right now for my taste, especially when most assignments won't pan out anyway. Either they don't like the rates, they found someone else or they cancel the project half way through. Need money today instead of tomorrow.
    Street Vending, don't know how viable that is for your are of the Nederlands, but if there are ttourists around, charicatures are good. You could get 10-20 euro for a 5 minute charcoal sketch. Or sell prints of your originals.
    You may be passed that, but it's pretty quick and painless work. and you your own boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    Ik ben nederlands :p.

    Douwe Dabbert past niet echt in de Donald Duck maar het teken werk is erg goed. Kwaliteit van het verhaal zelf verschilt per boek.
    Ik ben ook een Nederlander.

    Douwe Dabbert is typisch zo'n ding dat alle kanten op kan. Ik vond het echt nergens over gaan vroeger in de Donald Duck, en dat was het vervolg verhaal dat ik met alle plezier altijd weer oversloeg. Laatst heb ik eens een verhaal ervan gekocht en het viel eigenlijk nog best mee met de kwaliteit. Het was lang niet zo erg als dat ik me kon herrineren.

    Laatste tijd merk ik trouwens sowieso dat ik meer richting de Europese markt ga wat betreft strips. Amerikaanse comics was voorheen het enige dat ik las, en ik heb vaak zat geklaagd over de Europese strip ten op zichte van wat ik toen als superieure Amerikaanse comic zag. Daar ben ik nu wel op aan het terug komen.

    Er komen steeds meer dingen uit Frankrijk en Belgie die meer dan gewoon goed zijn. Kordey heeft zo met Empire iets neergezet dat me erg goed is bevallen. En geloof me, ik had een hekel aan Kordey toen die LaRocca verving en toen hij New X-men tekende. Dus mijn verbazing was groot toen ik zijn werk in Empire zag en moest toegeven dat de goede man echt niet goed tot zijn recht kwam in het Amerikaanse model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    Anyone know any fast ways to make money with art?
    Desperate for money but waiting around for potential clients to react to the rates I quote is taking too long right now for my taste, especially when most assignments won't pan out anyway. Either they don't like the rates, they found someone else or they cancel the project half way through. Need money today instead of tomorrow.
    Damn, does that sound familiar. The last good month I had, workwise, was June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howyadoin View Post
    Damn, does that sound familiar. The last good month I had, workwise, was June.
    It's pretty bad right now. Wasted almost 8 months on a project that was blown off and didn't get paid anything due to contract stipulations.

    Learned a valueble lesson but a tad too costly. Now i had to update my work, get my website in order (hopefully done soon) and find new clients while bills are piling up. It's not going fast and I'm earning too little at my part time job to pay the bills.

    Little tired of walking on the edge of a financial abbys.

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    Just got paid for a small job, that'll tie me over for another week.

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    [QUOTE=crazyredlady;8731745]I'm using Micron and Microperm myself for lining and lettering, but going with dip pens for more organic inking.
    ...I can't find a good pointed sable brush to save my butt though, and I've scanned the tons of brushes they have at the local art stores for the type right now I'm working with a synthetic brush with a cushioned grip, really comfortable if working with it for a long time, but it doesn't really do the work I'd like it to.
    and I work with several types of paper, I'm saving the Bristol for the stuff I want to publish, if that makes sense (and a few dollars as well I hope)
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    This is really neither here nor there, but it reminded me.
    I read a great tip in one of Scott McCloud's books: When searching for brushes, bring a little bit of water (like in a film container) into the art store with you, soak a brush your interested in and flick it to see how it shapes. If the dang thing forks, avoid it like the plague. You should also be able to tell if it will give you the point you need when it's dipped in ink. Brushes are expensive, but a trusty one can last a looong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    It's pretty bad right now. Wasted almost 8 months on a project that was blown off and didn't get paid anything due to contract stipulations.

    Learned a valueble lesson but a tad too costly. Now i had to update my work, get my website in order (hopefully done soon) and find new clients while bills are piling up. It's not going fast and I'm earning too little at my part time job to pay the bills.

    Little tired of walking on the edge of a financial abbys.
    Ouch, that hurts. And yeah, spec work is almost always a scam, in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    It's pretty bad right now. Wasted almost 8 months on a project that was blown off and didn't get paid anything due to contract stipulations.

    Learned a valueble lesson but a tad too costly. Now i had to update my work, get my website in order (hopefully done soon) and find new clients while bills are piling up. It's not going fast and I'm earning too little at my part time job to pay the bills.

    Little tired of walking on the edge of a financial abbys.
    There are some lucrative jobs out there, most of them are wholly dependant on networking.

    My advice, go forth and mingle with people from the wonderfully strange world of art. Don't connect with actual artists, connect with the people behind the artists. The people who invest in various projects. The people who are connected.

    I'm currently involved in a project that pays more than enough, and got it through someone well-connected. She knows I'm available for certain projects, and I know she needs people like me for certain assignments. She's got the connections, I've got the skills.

    If you're still here, as in, this country, you should try to attend various little gatherings, and join up with groups. Step outside of your comfort-zone, and do something that you would normally deem below you. The social experience gets you the connections that lead to jobs in the future.

    Try to present yourself as someone who has a broad area. It allows you to book jobs that aren't immediately tied to what you're specialized in, but are related. For instance, teaching is a possibility. Don't think teacher at a high-school, think specialist who's booked as part of a project which is tied to various schools.

    The jobs are usually only temporary, but they do provide a quick boost in income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by End of Time View Post
    There are some lucrative jobs out there, most of them are wholly dependant on networking.

    My advice, go forth and mingle with people from the wonderfully strange world of art. Don't connect with actual artists, connect with the people behind the artists. The people who invest in various projects. The people who are connected.

    I'm currently involved in a project that pays more than enough, and got it through someone well-connected. She knows I'm available for certain projects, and I know she needs people like me for certain assignments. She's got the connections, I've got the skills.

    If you're still here, as in, this country, you should try to attend various little gatherings, and join up with groups. Step outside of your comfort-zone, and do something that you would normally deem below you. The social experience gets you the connections that lead to jobs in the future.

    Try to present yourself as someone who has a broad area. It allows you to book jobs that aren't immediately tied to what you're specialized in, but are related. For instance, teaching is a possibility. Don't think teacher at a high-school, think specialist who's booked as part of a project which is tied to various schools.

    The jobs are usually only temporary, but they do provide a quick boost in income.
    No offense, but that was incredibly vague, and a lot of it reads like meaningless semantics (the bit about teaching at a highschool, for instance).
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