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    Default CBR: FURIOUS: Hickman Talks Secret Warriors

    With “Secret Warriors” #2 on sale this week, CBR News talks with writer Jonathan
    Hickman about what's next for Nick Fury now that he knows the dark secret
    behind his former employer, the spy agency S.H.I.E.L.D.


    Full article here.

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    Loved the first issue. I know I'm on for the long haul.
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    Me too...
    I am seceretly hoping we get to see some appearances by the other "super powered" agents revealed in the Hydra files.
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    The Leviathan, eh?

    I had a feeling there was a bigger force behind Hydra.

    After all, many heads...

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    I thought Von Strucker was killed over in Wolverine though? What am I missing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bevbos View Post
    I thought Von Strucker was killed over in Wolverine though? What am I missing here?
    ..that villains don't stay dead in comics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bevbos View Post
    I thought Von Strucker was killed over in Wolverine though? What am I missing here?

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    Hickman has a 60 issue outline? Wow.

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    ...Didn't the "SHIELD is a secret head of HYDRA" gimmic get pulled way, way back in Nick Fury Vs. SHIELD? Jeez, just for once I'd like to see SHIELD presented as a 100% good-guy, kick all butt organization, with no internal squabbling or traitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _OM_ View Post
    ...Didn't the "SHIELD is a secret head of HYDRA" gimmic get pulled way, way back in Nick Fury Vs. SHIELD?
    Sort of. It was more a case that a third group infiltrated both Hydra and SHIELD (plus AIM and Roxxon).
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    If SHIELD's been run by Hydra since the beginning, why did it keep beating Hydra (it was crapping up major Hydra operations, that's above and beyond a for-the-cameras defeat) and why didn't Hydra take over the Earth years ago?

    And why didn't it use its control to have all the superheroes in the 42 prison either murdered or cut off its return-access to Earth so everyone would be trapped in the Negative Zone?

    And why didn't it use that easy access to the UN and every world government?

    And etc etc etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles RB View Post
    If SHIELD's been run by Hydra since the beginning, why did it keep beating Hydra (it was crapping up major Hydra operations, that's above and beyond a for-the-cameras defeat) and why didn't Hydra take over the Earth years ago?

    And why didn't it use its control to have all the superheroes in the 42 prison either murdered or cut off its return-access to Earth so everyone would be trapped in the Negative Zone?

    And why didn't it use that easy access to the UN and every world government?

    And etc etc etc...
    i believe these are the things Secret Warriors is going to answer. I am definately looking forward to this series
    i want to know who stonewall's father is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles RB View Post
    If SHIELD's been run by Hydra since the beginning, why did it keep beating Hydra (it was crapping up major Hydra operations, that's above and beyond a for-the-cameras defeat) and why didn't Hydra take over the Earth years ago?

    And why didn't it use its control to have all the superheroes in the 42 prison either murdered or cut off its return-access to Earth so everyone would be trapped in the Negative Zone?

    And why didn't it use that easy access to the UN and every world government?

    And etc etc etc...
    Given the amount of work Hickman is seemingly putting into the backstory for this series, I'm guessing that'll all be addressed in some fashion. I don't know if they'll be satisfactory or not, but I do think we'll get answers.
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    It does however explain the thuggish behavior of SHIELD troops over the last few years, if not the amorality of Nick Fury himself and his habbit of using people (which now includes children for his private war, oh well, they are just lives after all and Fury is most likely as willing to throw them away if it achieves his goal) However if HYDRA or LEVIATHAN has been in charge than there is no way they don't have the list that Tony Stark is now trying desperately to hide. So that part of the story clashes with the rest of the mu.

    But for this to work will take a massive amount of retconing, ignoring what has gone before or cherry picking things that will help the story and not hinder it. Characters will have to be retconned to fit into the storyline.

    Sounds like typical modern day marvel. Might be a good story anyway though. I have the feeling that if you take this as a What-if story and don't think of it as fitting into the standard mu that was it might work and work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _OM_ View Post
    Jeez, just for once I'd like to see SHIELD presented as a 100% good-guy, kick all butt organization, with no internal squabbling or traitors.
    I say the same thing about all major government organizations in our world, but reality is reality. SHIELD is not an organization of super heroes but rather soldiers led by people in the political world.

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