considering the scale of AvsX, I hope that, in the aftermath, Monica isn't written off as doing her nails somewhere while all this is going on..
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Last edited by kelly_warrior_princess; 04-28-2012 at 10:04 PM.
Magic - although I think she got jobbed by the Wrecking Crew in their fight, it did demonstrate her vulnerability to the wildcard that is magic;
Psionics - any alpha-level telepath could likely take her out in her human form, and someeven in her energy-forms;
Elementals, and other energy manipulators would make worthy foes: Graviton, Living Laser, Magneto, Starhawk, the heralds of Galactus, Eternals, etc;
Alien super-science could provide various tramp-cards against her abilities....
The point is that there are plenty of ways to circumscribe her power-level for a particular story without radically nerfing the character for cheap reasons.
Given her power-set, I could see Monica operating out of New Orleans - dealing with Diabolique, zombies, racist cops, and Hellstrom ( Son of Satan), and in a subsequent story-arc, have her operating in New York, or Paris, or on Titan, in trans-lunar space.
Since, she can transforms into any energetic particle, she could become tachyons and have adventures on the far side of the galaxy, or in Earth's primordial past, or in one of the popular alternate futures, or a parallel reality.
The expansiveness of her powers makes for more potential stories not less!
Wow, you're reading comprehension is dismal or you're just an ass.
However i would strongly veto your idea about New Orleans as a base of operation & i would veto the racist cops thing even more strongly: Its just so cliched. Just once i'd like to see Marvel write a character who was incidentaly black without instantly becoming a cliche from either "the street" or from "the deep south." Likewise, i never ever want to see another unplugged story about a black character going back to the old neighbourhood & they relive the real problems that area had. Seriously, i don't think i can remember a single white character who has ever had a similiar story, its so cliched.
So as an answer to the question of "what to do with Monica" my answer would be, why do we HAVE to do anything? At some point a new pitch will come up & she'll be added to the line up... or not. So it is with fictional characters.
And it's possible to be from "the streets" and/or from "the deep south" without being a cliche. Story or character. It takes research and good writing.
As for not remembering a white character who's dealt with that... Uh... Spidey and Daredevil have to deal with that fact all the time after going off with the Avengers or FF. Spidey moreso than anyone else. Whenever Wolverine goes back to Canada or Japan, similar situation.
Also there's a reason why it's a "cliche". It's a reality for many minorities in the US, namely ones in college. I know I've had to deal with it every time I go back. Some just refuse to.
I think you may want to think about why those aspects are such a "cliche" to you. Because the reasons may be a bit more different and non-objective than you think. And no, don't worry, it's not racism. Not necessarily.
You know, the exact opposite of every single black character marvel currently has.
Its the cultural equiviliant of writers writing about yukuza & martial arts when ever theywrite about japan. Its lazy writing, that shows exactly how creatively bankrupt some writers have become.
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I'd like to see Monica sunbathing on the surface of a sun.. i'll have to get someone to do a commission..
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There is a BIG difference between making Monica work as a solo character and making her work as a member of a team.
She got a base of operations in N.O.
She has a day job: She is partner in a charter boat company with her dad.
She has got a little bit of a supporting cast: Her parents and this FBI dude who was a love interest for her in the 90's.
What she doesn't have is a rogue's gallery. So what would she be exactly doing in a solo book.
Better to revamp the Annihilators concept to Avengers: Space or something similar and put her, Quasar and whatever version
of Nova Marvel is using that week as the core of that team.
That takes care of your setting, job and rogues gallery issues all in one fell swoop.
Ok, this I agree with.sure, but thats like saying can i smack you in the face in a way that isn't cliched. I'm sure i could, but why would i? First Marvel would have to try & given Marvels track record they would likely fail, at whioch point we then need to suffer through another god awful version of what marvel writers think "street" is.
Are we reading the same Spider-Man? Because those are all plot lines I've seen in Spidey, except the racist cops. He may not "sell out", but Peter has changed over the years, for better or worse, and that has been a story point every now and then. Maybe it's not set up in a way that annoys you, but it's there.No they don't. There is never that unplugged issue where Peter Parker has to walk through the old neighbourhood & we have to see the distrust from old friends, because he sold out and became successful & at some point someone lays a guilt tuip on old Peter Parker for forgetting where his true place is, where his roots are... An then there is some rubbish about drug dealers & bent racist cops... God i'm so sick of that plot line. Its a hackney narrative tool used by poor writers, to pretend they possess relevancy.
It is a very well-treaded plot line. However, I think that it's the execution that is the failing more so than the concept itself. I mean, it could be the basis of a character like Falcon. In fact, it is, since he's a social worker.
I honestly don't think it is the same. What you brought up is the result of a lack of knowledge, ignorance of the culture. Because not all Japanese people are martial artists or have Yakuza ties. The other one is a overly used plotline because it is prevalent within the culture.Its the cultural equiviliant of writers writing about yukuza & martial arts when ever theywrite about japan. Its lazy writing, that shows exactly how creatively bankrupt some writers have become.
I mean, if you want to see a rich or middle classed minority character that's not from the city, that's fine. But they aren't anymore special than the ones in the city. And don't act like they are somehow more interesting, or more realistic, or "less black".
True. I do think it is overused. But that doesn't mean it needs to be killed off, or that origins need to be changed. It just that more diverse backgrounds for characters are needed.Thats nice... An yet completely doesn't matter to the point at hand. The overuse of a cliche, does not make it any less of a cliche. Its like if we made every single white hero a rich socialite playboy... It doesn't matter how many of them actually exist in the real world, it doesn't make it any less of a stupidly overused cliche.
Now when it comes to whether or not societal stuff are relevant in the discussion, well... I'll leave that one off, because that's just entirely two schools of thought.
I just don't like the idea of a lifestyle being considered a cliche. Sure, there are plotlines that are cliched,Not really kid: Its a cliche, because its an overused cliche. Its got nothing to do with real people, its just a cliche & its been overused. An people are tired of the cliches... In the life of any medium, there comes a time where all tired cliches must be taken out behind the barn & shot between the eyes. Those two backgrounds happen to be two that need the bullet in the head treatment.