HSDK manga discussion thread

[darksaint124]

You what?

The development of Kumi and Ippo's relationship, while intensely slow has been much better handled than Miu and Kenichi's. There are still mitigating reasons why they haven't hooked up yet; every attempt they've made has been interupted by one thing or another and there's the whole issue with Ryo hating Ippo.

Considering there is nothing impeding either Kenichi or Miu from asking the other out and they've been through much more emotional stress that would cause them to become closer but neither does anything.

For a further point, Ippo and Kumi's relationship is not central to the plot, boxing is. Whereas Miu and Kenichi's relationship is the primary drive for Kenichi to want to become strong at all and one of the central premises of the piece.

I cannot agree. Kumi and Ippo have known each other for years now. In story they are like 22 now. What stops them is that Ippo doesn't have the balls, Kumi has thrown him enough hints and he's a grown man. Ippo is the next 40 year old virgin.

Kenichi/Miu have only progressed 1 year in story time and are 15(?) It is a given that Kenichi will be with Miu, but it is still typical shounen nonsense. We will probably never see Kenichi with Miu, but it will always be heavily implied.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

[FistofIron]

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

That's what I was thinking. If you read what he said a few pages earlier its obvious he's just trying to push Kenichi.

[Len Ikari145]

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

Nope, that was obvious.

[Nik Hasta]

I cannot agree. Kumi and Ippo have known each other for years now. In story they are like 22 now. What stops them is that Ippo doesn't have the balls, Kumi has thrown him enough hints and he's a grown man. Ippo is the next 40 year old virgin.

Not so. Granted Ippo is very nervous of women, being quite emotionally stunted in his way, but both have tried to make progress on their relationship. Ippo's tried on multiple occasions to tell her that he loves her.

Also that still doesn't change the fact that Ippo's personal relationships are not the main drive of the manga, his boxing career is.

Kenichi/Miu have only progressed 1 year in story time and are 15(?) It is a given that Kenichi will be with Miu, but it is still typical shounen nonsense. We will probably never see Kenichi with Miu, but it will always be heavily implied.

I just don't see any reason for them not to have even confronted the issue since it's blatantly obvious how Kenichi feels and it's even more obvious that Miu gets jealous everytime Renka (Or whichever random martial arts orientated female it happens to be) shows overt interest in him.

There's been no reason for them not have confronted the issue by now and Kenichi's relationship with Miu is one of the central themes of the manga. If Miu was less obviously interested then the relationship moving this slowly would make sense but since they both obviously care for each other a huge amount and are together every day I see no real reason why this subject hasn't come up yet.

I feel that the progression of relationships in Hajime no Ippo has been handled much better than those in HSDK. Though that is not to say that HnI is an example of stellar relationship writing, it's good and fun but ultimately secondary to the main boxing action so it isn't as good as say; Love Hina.

[Deskad]

Like I said, this gynophobia exhibited by many of the male leads in shonen series is one of the few things that tends to piss me off in manga.

That said, Takeda and Kenichi's fight is frickin awesome. Makes one wonder if Natsumoto will join in, seeing as he too is a rival to Kenichi.

[darksaint124]

Like I said, this gynophobia exhibited by many of the male leads in shonen series is one of the few things that tends to piss me off in manga.

QFT

It is a standard in shounen for relationships to be stagnant even though they blatantly obvious, probably one of the reasons I like Air Gear so much is that it breaks down a lot of those archetypes.

i.e. Male lead with no talent/confidence and has some sort of fear that has to do with women or delinquents, women suck men rock(at least it's getting less and less in the manga world now, just don't tell that to Bleach/Naruto) There's a lot more, but this is about HSDK/HnI.

[Dark Soul # 7]

New chapter is out.

Kenichi finally gets serious and lays on some ass-whupping.

But Takeda still has an ace up his sleave. A pretty damn impressive ace at that.

[master of read]

New chapter is out.

Kenichi finally gets serious and lays on some ass-whupping.

But Takeda still has an ace up his sleave. A pretty damn impressive ace at that.

damn right. to think takeda could do that move. due to this, where would you rank him now in the SA?

[Dark Soul # 7]

damn right. to think takeda could do that move. due to this, where would you rank him now in the SA?

Definately at the top which I now consider a struggle between him, Kenichi, Siegfried and Hermit.

[FistofIron]

The new chapter was awesome I just love Takeda's boxing style. I'm happy that Kenichi got serious started going to work and now I can't wait for the next chap. Seeing how much Takeda has improved I can only wonder how hardcore a fighter James Shiba is. Maybe James and Akisame will have a match some day.

[Deskad]

The new chapter was awesome I just love Takeda's boxing style. I'm happy that Kenichi got serious started going to work and now I can't wait for the next chap. Seeing how much Takeda has improved I can only wonder how hardcore a fighter James Shiba is. Maybe James and Akisame will have a match some day.

How much you want to bet that there will be moves involving moustaches?

[Kusanagi]

Takeda's definitely gotten a serious upgrade, as would expect from actually training with a master. Still to pick up Sei and actually give a damn good fight after Kenichi got real serious is awesome.

[Len Ikari145]

Takeda's definitely gotten a serious upgrade, as would expect from actually training with a master. Still to pick up Sei and actually give a damn good fight after Kenichi got real serious is awesome.

Yup, that's what I love about Kenichi. Unlike most shounen manga, His rivals never fall behind him in skill or power. Damn, I still can't believe that Takeda can use Ryuusei Seikuuken(or at least a close variation). Hopefully, Kenichi's greater experience with the tech will give him the edge he needs to win.

Y'know, if this becomes pattern where Kenichi fights his old adversaries-turned-friends with their improved fighting techniques, I have to say that the hypothetical Hermit vs Kenichi rematch is going to be sick.

[master of read]

Yup, that's what I love about Kenichi. Unlike most shounen manga, His rivals never fall behind him in skill or power. Damn, I still can't believe that Takeda can use Ryuusei Seikuuken(or at least a close variation). Hopefully, Kenichi's greater experience with the tech will give him the edge he needs to win.

Y'know, if this becomes pattern where Kenichi fights his old adversaries-turned-friends with their improved fighting techniques, I have to say that the hypothetical Hermit vs Kenichi rematch is going to be sick.

the only one who's falling behind is ukita but only cause he hasnt found a master.