HSDK manga discussion thread

[Pong]

Even the Elder stated that Saiga wasn't bloodthirsty beast but rather started believing in spilling small amount of blood for greater good.

[Jmacq1]

Exactly, look at Hongo and, to a lesser extent, Agaard Jum Sai and the Yoga-style master. None of them are particularly evil exactly, just kind of casual about killing people if they fill the situation calls for it. I could see Saiga just being like them and ludicrously strong to boot.

I still want to know where Kensei sits in the pecking order of Yami.

Even the Elder stated that Saiga wasn't bloodthirsty beast but rather started believing in spilling small amount of blood for greater good.

I get all that, but I'm trying to reconcile that "can still be a nice guy that just happens to kill people with martial arts" with "Hmmm, lemme put together this group of folks that believe in killing people with the martial arts that range from "Complete Psycho" (Jenazad) to "Guy who'll order innocent schoolkids killed without a second thought" (Gaidar), to "Mad Martial Arts Scientists" (Kensei, Kushinada) to "Honorable Killers" (Hongo, Agaard, possibly/probably Rahman) to "Diego" (Diego, because clearly Diego is in a class of Diego's own) and of course the wildcard Sougetsu Ma.

I'm just trying to see the larger angle. I get that there's supposed to be a philosophical struggle against the satsu-types (with Ryozanpaku being the poster-boys n' girls for that), but it's hard for me to see "Nice guy that thinks spilling a little blood here and there is OK" as a guy that would feel so strongly about it that he'd all but appoint himself the grand master of the "killing fist." You could make an argument that he's trying to control/channel Yomi, but to what end? He's certainly not stopping them from engaging in all manner of bloodshed and such around the world, and of course by its' very nature the idea of "restraining" the killing fist would seem antithetical to their philosophy.

But obviously there's likely much more to come from Fuurinji Saiga. I'm mostly just spitballing here/explaining why it doesn't seem to add up (so far) in my noggin.

[Holy Spirit]

I get all that, but I'm trying to reconcile that "can still be a nice guy that just happens to kill people with martial arts" with "Hmmm, lemme put together this group of folks that believe in killing people with the martial arts that range from "Complete Psycho" (Jenazad) to "Guy who'll order innocent schoolkids killed without a second thought" (Gaidar), to "Mad Martial Arts Scientists" (Kensei, Kushinada) to "Honorable Killers" (Hongo, Agaard, possibly/probably Rahman) to "Diego" (Diego, because clearly Diego is in a class of Diego's own) and of course the wildcard Sougetsu Ma.

I'm just trying to see the larger angle. I get that there's supposed to be a philosophical struggle against the satsu-types (with Ryozanpaku being the poster-boys n' girls for that), but it's hard for me to see "Nice guy that thinks spilling a little blood here and there is OK" as a guy that would feel so strongly about it that he'd all but appoint himself the grand master of the "killing fist." You could make an argument that he's trying to control/channel Yomi, but to what end? He's certainly not stopping them from engaging in all manner of bloodshed and such around the world, and of course by its' very nature the idea of "restraining" the killing fist would seem antithetical to their philosophy.

But obviously there's likely much more to come from Fuurinji Saiga. I'm mostly just spitballing here/explaining why it doesn't seem to add up (so far) in my noggin.

Ah..... I get what you're saying.

"Diego" (Diego, because clearly Diego is in a class of Diego's own)

This put a smile on my face.

[penguin-in-leather-jacket]

Diego belongs in the Complete Monster class. that was the whole point of the match on the cruise ship; he was going to blow the whole thing into non-existence for the entertainment of who-the-hell-knows how many viewers watching the broadcast. he flat-out called the event his "murder show". frankly, I suspect the D of D was supposed to end similarly.

[Holy Spirit]

Diego belongs in the Complete Monster class. that was the whole point of the match on the cruise ship; he was going to blow the whole thing into non-existence for the entertainment of who-the-hell-knows how many viewers watching the broadcast. he flat-out called the event his "murder show". frankly, I suspect the D of D was supposed to end similarly.

Hey!

So what do you think about the events so far?

[The Drunkard Kid]

Diego belongs in the Complete Monster class. that was the whole point of the match on the cruise ship; he was going to blow the whole thing into non-existence for the entertainment of who-the-hell-knows how many viewers watching the broadcast. he flat-out called the event his "murder show". frankly, I suspect the D of D was supposed to end similarly.

IIRC, he was hired to kill the people in the audience, and lured them in to watch an underground fight to the death between masters and their teenaged disciples while his real clients watched from safety to see it all unfold, or something like that. The fiasco at the D of D tournament was mostly Fortuna's doing, IIRC.

Also, you gotta admit that trying to charge a bunch of people an entrance fee to attend their own assassination that you also got paid for while simultaneously getting rid of at least one major rival and his student, and feeding your exhibitionist streak twice over at the same time is a pretty impressive show of efficiency. No wonder that Diego was apparently Yami's events coordinator.

[penguin-in-leather-jacket]

IIRC, he was hired to kill the people in the audience, and lured them in to watch an underground fight to the death between masters and their teenaged disciples while his real clients watched from safety to see it all unfold, or something like that. The fiasco at the D of D tournament was mostly Fortuna's doing, IIRC.

I knew all that. and yeah, Fortuna had some responsibility for the end of the D of D, but that's exactly the point -- Diego was openly irritated his spectacle got averted and we are left to wonder what he wanted to happen and how awesome it would have been.

and yeah, he's efficient and seems a funny guy on the surface, but he's clearly a hell of a lot closer to the "bad guy" end of the scale.

[Holy Spirit]

The god fist is actually not getting destroyed yet......... color me surprised, and impressed.




I loved the way he marched up the side of that wall and stared in Jenazad's face with his hands in his pockets like a boss. That's got to be a fundamental martial arts no no but... man..... if that wasn't awesome!


Go Hongo!

[Jmacq1]

The god fist is actually not getting destroyed yet......... color me surprised, and impressed.




I loved the way he marched up the side of that wall and stared in Jenazad's face with his hands in his pockets like a boss. That's got to be a fundamental martial arts no no but... man..... if that wasn't awesome!


Go Hongo!

Indeed...either Jenazad is holding back, Hongo's tougher than expected or (most likely) a mixture of both. I mean, I expected Hongo would give him a fight, but not that he would be doing quite so well. I have a feeling it may very well be Hongo's cool demeanor that wins the day for him, though I doubt he'll escape completely unscathed.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Well... that's kind of insane even by maser class standard.

[The Drunkard Kid]

That last page felt like something out of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, possibly if Jonathan Joestar had been an Araki-verse anorexic or something.

[FistofIron]

Pretty cool fight so far.

[Jmacq1]

Well... that's kind of insane even by maser class standard.

Ehn...I pretty much gave up on expecting any kind of limit to the insanity once we hit "These two guys are completely unconscious but still having a master-level fight."

[Kage Kisaragi]

I love this manga, everybody is on roids. The girls, the boys, the men, the women, even the mouse. Each page of every fight is a like motivational poster put to words. So so good. What I like most about this fight is the fact that it's Demon God Fist vs God Fist, or maybe just Demon vs God Fist. I am still kind of annoyed up set with the Miu can't be conscious when her father comes to her rescue. I mean its a great tool to keep the suspense and build more drama and tension, but man I just want her honest reaction to her father, who if no one else noticed it has a striking resemblance to her. I fully expected him to look like a HSDK version of Gohan, but I remember we saw someone like that already back in the D of D tournament.

I wish I could tell the Author to just start Miu naked in all her future fights, it would save time on his end.

[Jmacq1]

Next chapter up.

Suddenly getting the feeling the next chapter isn't going to go well for Hongo at all....

And sadly we've got to wait three weeks for it.

Though at this point I could very easily see this ending with Hongo's narrow victory, he'll just be conveniently so badly injured that he'll have to stay in-country and let the Princess who's crushing hard on him nurse him back to health. The lucky bum.