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[CBR News]

"Cable" writer Duane Swierczynski answers your questions about time-
travel, the Messiah baby, and Cable joining the AARP in this week's all-new X-
POSITION, including previews of issues #9 and #10.


Full article here.

[rwsmith]

Interesting:

CBR: As Apocalypse and Sinister seem to have lives that go on forever, is there any chance they will play a factor in Cable or the Messiah Child’s future? You have to figure that those two would be especially interested in the kid…

DS: Funny you mention that, skroller, because…[closes hand over mouth before saying anything else]. Keep your eyes peeled!

CBR: As long as we’re on the topic of guest appearances, ChickRockGuitar has a request…

Anymore X-Force upcoming guest spots in the future?

DS: In Cable’s future you mean? Or future issues of “Cable”? (See what kind of problems you can have when you write time-travel stories?)

I can say that the time we’re going to be spending with X-Force in the current arc — “Waiting for the End of the World” — is but a mere glimpse of the X-Force-iness to come.

I also think that line towards the end about Cable (or at least this aging version of him) not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present might've been a hint...

I'm thinking there's an upcoming crossover with X-Force, and that Apocalypse and/or Sinister are central to the plot. Sounds fun!

[Pro]

I also think that line towards the end about Cable (or at least this aging version of him) not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present might've been a hint...

"Old soldier pressed into a final mission".
"not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present "

Yup he's a gonner.

Cable and Bishop have jumped into a timeline that is very unfamiliar to both of them. Imagine the fate of the baby as a coin toss: heads she lives (the future Cable wants), tails she dies (the future Bishop wants). Well, this timeline is basically the coin landing on its edge… and staying there. Neither future has come to pass, and we’re left in a kind of nightmare future.

Huh? A third future? A future where the baby hasn't died but hasn't survived either?

Err ...

[jarrod]

3) Also, any chance Rachel Summers will appear in “Cable” once she returns from space?

As Tom Petty once said, “The future is wide open.”

ZOMG. Duane Swierczynski confirms the glorious return of Rachel Summers!

[roguephoenix]

arg i didn't study! >_<

[ClanAskani]

ZOMG. Duane Swierczynski confirms the glorious return of Rachel Summers!

Yeah, along with strongly suggesting Nathan is dying and/or not coming back.

It's going to suck to have eight years of waiting for the Rachel and Nathan reunion ruined by Nathan dying. I feel like crying.

I really don't understand this relaunch of Cable. Cable was fantastic in Messiah Complex. The concept of Bishop vs Cable for the baby is great. Mike Carey's Cable in X-Men was great. Then the new Cable series launched and everything went downhill. And I don't blame Duane Swierczysnki. I'm sure he's a fine writer, and I doubt he was the one deciding what to do with Cable.

What's the appeal of an old Cable, on his final mission, where he's physically unable to kick ass???

I know there's debate about whether Cable should be drawn like he's in his 30s and prematurally gray (like Ian Churchill's Cable) or more like the Liefield grizzled old soldier (late 40s/early 50s). But Nursing Home Cable is not a selling point.


Over on the Marvel X-board, there's been a lot of discussion about what's wrong with Cable and how to fix it. One of the major problem is that Cable is such a minor player in his own title. In part that's due to the lack of anything going on other raising the baby and Bishop. There's a few minor subplots with Cable and the various locals, but each arc moves so slowly and Cable doesn't do much for most of it. It's not showcasing Cable at his best.

Honestly, to me it feels like 24-36 issues of filler until Marvel gets around to the next crossover where who the baby is is unveiled. It usually take a long time for major reveals, but the problem is that there are usually a lot of other things going on. But that isn't the case in Cable.

Look at X-Force. They have about a bazillion plots going on, dozens of villains and it's is selling like hotcakes, and is going to be lasting a long, long time.

For Cable to be a title that has any hope of another 107 issue run, rather than one long mini-series waiting for the next crossover, Cable needs to be going on other missions in each issue, while Bishop and who the baby is are subplots.

But maybe that's it. This is all just one long swan song for Cable.

It's depressing since this could have been such a great series. There's so much potential. But it's not showcasing Cable at his best. Sales keep declining, and adding in X-Force isn't going to help if the art doesn't improve and the plot does get moving.

[rwsmith]

I don't think Cable is dying per se. Remember during Messiah Complex (and afterwards when they were trying to hype his new series) when Marvel kept dropping all those hints about which version of Cable it would be? And then there was that rumor about a younger version of Nate coming back and joining X-Force?

My guess is that he and the child keep jumping forward in this alternate future until they run into its version of Cable, but at a younger age and more militant like Nate was when he first appeared in the New Mutants (I'm picturing a very Marcus Fenix/Gears of War-esque version of Cable). Our Cable then downloads his memories into this younger version (perhaps with his dying breath) and charges him with returning the Messiah Child to the present. Thus it's Cable who brings her back, but a different version (younger/more militant), and yet he still has all of 616 Cable's memories.

Just a theory, but it would line up with all the hints/rumors that were dropped this time last year...

[ClanAskani]

All of those rumors of another Cable was fanfiction someone put on Wikipedia.

Unless Nathan downloads his memories into this other Cable, it removes all the connection Cable has with all the X-Men, including X-Force, and Irene and Wade, and especially the baby. What's the point in that?

Why not make the actual Cable the militant, younger, kick ass version, rather than having to do some alternate version? Nathan's been drawn as looking like any where from early 30s to late 50s.

If he's now at least 55-60 (Duane said he's at least a few years over 55, the age to join AARP), and ages at least 15 years as the little girl ages, he might be 70 by the time he returns. Why not start with Cable in his 40s and age him to his late 55s?

In the interview with Bill Jemas and Joe Quesada about Ultimate Marvel CBR put up today, Jemas made a joke about Marvel heroes getting too old, and pretty soon they'd be so old they be talking about prostate problems. While I'm not an Ultimate fan, Jemas has a point - older superheroes aren't relatable. And it doesn't take killing off Nate to deage him. Just go back to Jeph Loeb/Ian Churchill's Cable who was drawn like he was slightly older than Scott & Jean.

[John Lynch]

"Old soldier pressed into a final mission".
"not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present "

Yup he's a gonner.

But why name the book after the character that dies? Has this been selling poorly? And so his death wasn't planned from the beginning?

I really don't understand this relaunch of Cable.

I'm loving it myself. The appeal for me is:
* We get to see what the future looks like at various points (the reason I like studying ancient history and reading science-fiction and fantasy is because I enjoy reading about other civilizations).
* We get to see the character of Cable grow as a character beyond the kicking-ass and taking names character he once was. To me this is a perfect continuation of the character in Cable & Deadpool.

I'd hate to see Cable regress from what he was in that series. And thankfully the solo titles shows he hasn't.

Just a theory, but it would line up with all the hints/rumors that were dropped this time last year...

HA! Now that'd be something like what Deadpool predicted in Cable & Deadpool :D

older superheroes aren't relatable.

I find this one much more interesting and relatable then what he was just going around killing people.

[John Lynch]

"Old soldier pressed into a final mission".
"not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present "

Yup he's a gonner.

But why name the book after the character that dies? Has this been selling poorly? And so his death wasn't planned from the beginning?

I really don't understand this relaunch of Cable.

I'm loving it myself. The appeal for me is:
* We get to see what the future looks like at various points (the reason I like studying ancient history and reading science-fiction and fantasy is because I enjoy reading about other civilizations).
* We get to see the character of Cable grow as a character beyond the kicking-ass and taking names character he once was. To me this is a perfect continuation of the character in Cable & Deadpool.

I'd hate to see Cable regress from what he was in that series. And thankfully the solo titles shows he hasn't.

Just a theory, but it would line up with all the hints/rumors that were dropped this time last year...

HA! Now that'd be something like what Deadpool predicted in Cable & Deadpool :D

older superheroes aren't relatable.

I find this one much more interesting and relatable then what he was just going around killing people.

[John Lynch]

"Old soldier pressed into a final mission".
"not being the one to bring the Messiah Child back to the present "

Yup he's a gonner.

But why name the book after the character that dies? Has this been selling poorly? And so his death wasn't planned from the beginning?

I really don't understand this relaunch of Cable.

I'm loving it myself. The appeal for me is:
* We get to see what the future looks like at various points (the reason I like studying ancient history and reading science-fiction and fantasy is because I enjoy reading about other civilizations).
* We get to see the character of Cable grow as a character beyond the kicking-ass and taking names character he once was. To me this is a perfect continuation of the character in Cable & Deadpool.

I'd hate to see Cable regress from what he was in that series. And thankfully the solo titles shows he hasn't.

Just a theory, but it would line up with all the hints/rumors that were dropped this time last year...

HA! Now that'd be something like what Deadpool predicted in Cable & Deadpool :D

older superheroes aren't relatable.

I find this one much more interesting and relatable then what he was just going around killing people.

[rwsmith]

All of those rumors of another Cable was fanfiction someone put on Wikipedia.

Nope. I'm talking about the rumor floated by that blogger calling himself "Marvel Boy." Probably not true, but he did have some spoilers for earlier issues of Secret Invasion that turned out to be accurate. Having said that, a lot of folks think he was a marketing ploy by Marvel to promote SI (i.e., to act like they'd been infiltrated).

Unless Nathan downloads his memories into this other Cable, it removes all the connection Cable has with all the X-Men, including X-Force, and Irene and Wade, and especially the baby. What's the point in that?

Um...that's why I said that he will download his memories into this younger version. Otherwise you're right, there's no connection or knowledge of anything that's happened before in the X-books.

I don't know why I think this will happen, but it would just seem to make sense if they want to take Cable back to his roots as a character.

[Jeff-X]

Um...that's why I said that he will download his memories into this younger version. Otherwise you're right, there's no connection or knowledge of anything that's happened before in the X-books.

I don't know why I think this will happen, but it would just seem to make sense if they want to take Cable back to his roots as a character.

Nate Grey switched bodies with an alternate version of himself toward the end of his series, so it's definitely a possibility.

What I'm wondering is if he's going to be jumping that far into the future that he'll run into his younger self, will we see a younger version of Stryfe?

[rwsmith]

Possibly. I'd love to see very different versions of both Cable and Stryfe in this new alternate future that Cable and the child are currently traveling through. Again, I'm picturing a very Gears of War-esque future, but it'd be nice to see Stryfe again too.

[streator]

i hope they don't age cable too much more in this book.

more x-force sounds good. i think that the way this book is set up currently it needs to keep ties to the present 616 universe to keep it involving.

maybe it's just me, but in the past i cared more about other alternate timelines & their respective characters than i have so far in the places cable & bishop have gone.