Nico Robin vs Sasuke

[Ant Crown]

And your belitting Sasuke because despite certain cicumstances. Sasuke and Robin both lost something that made them cold and distant from others until they met certain people. But Sasuke's situation is a little more complex than Robins's. Sasuke had a extreme bond with his brother, he was his reason for living, he was his whole reason for striving to become a better person. A Brotherly bond that was stronger than anything in the world. And then, Sasuke without a single hestation cried and weeped because his brother(his greatest bond) betrayed him by killing his other bonds in front of his eyes without giving him a reason. Which led Sasuke into a mass histeria of vengence and revenge. Just think how traumatic about how your whole world comes tumbling down in one night by one of your own kin. Add to the fact, his whole clan is nearly extinct and he's one of the last survivors. So condeming Sasuke because he never had the mental awareness to get over his trauma which was later eleborated by Itachi as he had him hate him and strive to become stronger doesn't mean Robin is more well established.

Actually Itachi had no bond as he was usually dragged off because of duty or dear ole dad.

So Uchina family life was pretty much...favoritism for the biggest gun you got.

[aikon]

Actually Itachi had no bond as he was usually dragged off because of duty or dear ole dad.

So Uchina family life was pretty much...favoritism for the biggest gun you got.

Itachi had friends, a girl, and last but not least Sasuke. Thats enough.

Uchiha's were also prideful characters, but their logic led them to their demise. But Itachi killed some Uchiha that were not that corrupted(mikoto) which makes him a total scum bag IMO.

[Kevin M.]

I think there are some factors being ignored here. Robin is a 28 year old adult when we see her. Sasuke is a 16 year old kid.

I doubt Robin at 16 would be the same kind of person we see her as at 28. Additionally, if anything Ao Kiji was saying is true, she worked her way throughout the seedy underground and has betrayed pretty much everyone she's ever worked with. She worked closely with Baroque works and Crocodile while they set off a whole civil war, and has worked as an assassin.

It's not like she was an angel or something during her years until she joined the crew. Also, unlike Sasuke, the ones responsible for her lose are totally untouchable to her. She can't even begin to have revenge on the World Government. For Sasuke the ones he want's revenge on are actually reachable for him. Do you think that a 16 year old Robin would be any less likely to pursue a similar course of revenge as Sasuke if she actually cold pose a threat the the heads of the government?

It seems all this is being ignored in favor of feeding the Sasuke fire.

Just using the current Robin and Sauske for this argument Rag. Wasn't thinking about the inbetween.

[The Dog]

I think there are some factors being ignored here. Robin is a 28 year old adult when we see her. Sasuke is a 16 year old kid.

I doubt Robin at 16 would be the same kind of person we see her as at 28. Additionally, if anything Ao Kiji was saying is true, she worked her way throughout the seedy underground and has betrayed pretty much everyone she's ever worked with. She worked closely with Baroque works and Crocodile while they set off a whole civil war, and has worked as an assassin.

It's not like she was an angel or something during her years until she joined the crew. Also, unlike Sasuke, the ones responsible for her lose are totally untouchable to her. She can't even begin to have revenge on the World Government. For Sasuke the ones he want's revenge on are actually reachable for him. Do you think that a 16 year old Robin would be any less likely to pursue a similar course of revenge as Sasuke if she actually cold pose a threat the the heads of the government?

It seems all this is being ignored in favor of feeding the Sasuke fire.

Well, Nico Robin tried to not betray those around her, working hard and doing odd jobs for room and board, just trying to survive without a home, family, or friends.

But every time she believed she found something good, those people ended up betraying her to the World Government for the money. After a while, she stopped trying and just began working for scum and betraying them before they eventually did the same.

But the moment she found those who actually cared for her and wouldn't betray her (Luffy and crew), she was willing to die to keep them safe.


Sasuke, on the other hand, had people who cared for him and bent over backwards to help him to the point of ignoring other students (Kakashi) or breaking the rules to give him what he wanted (Sarutobi).

He even had people who cared for him like Luffy did for Robin (Team Seven, Ino, etc). But unlike her, he betrayed them all, even trying to kill Naruto, the person he claimed was his best friend, and running off to Orochimaru for the sake of vengeance.

He even said he didn't care if Orochimaru stole his body as long as Itachi died. He was basically willing to hand over Orochimaru the means to destroy Konoha, murder everyone who cared for him, and cause death and destruction around him.

[aikon]

Well, Nico Robin tried to not betray those around her, working hard and doing odd jobs for room and board, just trying to survive without a home, family, or friends.

But every time she believed she found something good, those people ended up betraying her to the World Government for the money. After a while, she stopped trying and just began working for scum and betraying them before they eventually did the same

Okay.

But the moment she found those who actually cared for her and wouldn't betray her (Luffy and crew), she was willing to die to keep them safe.

Getting warmer.

Sasuke, on the other hand, had people who cared for him and bent over backwards to help him to the point of ignoring other students (Kakashi) or breaking the rules to give him what he wanted (Sarutobi).

Cold, Sasuke having people care about means shit in his current situation. Sasuke had no clan let alone family, his brother was still alive and was terrorizing countries for Bijuu, the village didn't support him with the nesassary resources to get his revenge and everytime Naruto did something, Sasuke developed an infierority complex knowing he can't afford to be left behind as he deidicated his life to reach Itachi's standards which he can't afford to lose.

He even had people who cared for him like Luffy did for Robin (Team Seven, Ino, etc). But unlike her, he betrayed them all, even trying to kill Naruto, the person he claimed was his best friend, and running off to Orochimaru for the sake of vengeance.

Naruto and Sakura wanted Sasuke to please them for themselves, none of which gave a damn about his revenge which he soley wanted. Sasuke severed his bonds, he choose to cut his bonds towards Naruto because he knows Naruto is his greatest obstacle in life and he can't afford that in his plate while getting back at his brother. Don't bring Ino into this. She wants Sasuke because he's a hunk. Her involvement with Sasuke is shallow.

He even said he didn't care if Orochimaru stole his body as long as Itachi died. He was basically willing to hand over Orochimaru the means to destroy Konoha, murder everyone who cared for him, and cause death and destruction around him.

And guess what, he took out Oro. Meaning he was bluffing, Sasuke is known to lie and talk trash to achieve his ends and goals. So far, no one knows Sasuke is in akatsuki, and if my theory is correct Tsunade will still not take action on Sasuke because of a certain blonde and pink haired duo.

[Ghost]

That actually helped Robin build great character, instead of just being a brooding emo avenger.

Yeah, because we all know nothing builds character like deeply traumatic childhood experiences.

I think there are some factors being ignored here. Robin is a 28 year old adult when we see her. Sasuke is a 16 year old kid.

I doubt Robin at 16 would be the same kind of person we see her as at 28.

Good point. Sasuke is kind of at a crossroads now, anyway. I think we need to wait and see where he ends up.

Well, Nico Robin tried to not betray those around her, working hard and doing odd jobs for room and board, just trying to survive without a home, family, or friends.

But every time she believed she found something good, those people ended up betraying her to the World Government for the money. After a while, she stopped trying and just began working for scum and betraying them before they eventually did the same.

But the moment she found those who actually cared for her and wouldn't betray her (Luffy and crew), she was willing to die to keep them safe.

Classic separation anxiety case.

Actually, Robin didn't really handle it that much better then Sasuke, I think. They just kinda went in opposite directions. Sasuke became obsessed by revenge, while Robin kind of gave in and started believing the BS the Wold Goverment told her about her life being a sin and a curse.

In the end, they both ended up adopting the exact mindset their tormentors wanted them to; they were both equally broken, in their own way.

[aikon]

Well you guys I'm off to college, see ya. I'll come back one day, goona be gone for a long while. So wish me luck.

[Ghost]

Well you guys I'm off to college, see ya. I'll come back one day, goona be gone for a long while. So wish me luck.

God speed!

[Ragnorok64]

Well you guys I'm off to college, see ya. I'll come back one day, goona be gone for a long while. So wish me luck.

Don't colleges usually have internet...

[Kusanagi]

Going with Robin, you can't really say who suffered more through their respective slaughters. But leading up to the tragedies Robin had the worse life, throw in some talking mice and she's cinderella, actually that might be understating it, I don't remember everyone in town hating Cinderella.

Then in the years that followed their respective Robin was hounded, hunted and betrayed at every single turn, Sasuke while still determined to take revenge on his brother at least had a period where things where things weren't that bad. In fact before Itachi showed up Sasuke was actually lightening up a bit. He might have brooded a bit during that period, I wouldn't come close to saying he was suffering in any way.

As for who handled it better, I agree at Sasuke's age I doubt Robin was much better morally, though you can say her's was the only way to survive, while a lot of Sasuke's decisions were self inflicted.

[Kevin M.]

Yeah, because we all know nothing builds character like deeply traumatic childhood experiences.

Damn skippy!