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    i wonder when the HULK figure from hottoys are coming out! its gonna be SICK!!

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    Guys i am about to order a lot of Avengers books starting from Disassembled and wondered when i came to the Main Events like House of M, should i be buying the main House of M book or buy the House of M: Avengers book?

    The same applies to

    New Avengers Volume 5: Civil War
    New Avenger: Secret Invasion book 1 and 2
    Siege: New Avengers and Dark Avengers

    Basically do i buy the side issues or would i get away with just buying the Main book.

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    Just buy the main event, forget the side issues. Often they are not as good as the main book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telos View Post
    Just buy the main event, forget the side issues. Often they are not as good as the main book.
    Thanks again mate.

    You're a legend.

    That will save me a bit of money as that is six books i dont have to buy. I dont want to miss anything but the reason i asked was from what i have learned in about side issues they dont usually seem worth the money. I have so much to learn but this site is definitely helping.

    Thanks.

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    I have been reading through this whole thread and honestly i am getting a bit annoyed at the amount of tie ins these events have. It certainly isn't easy for a newcomer to be able to follow.

    Telos,

    I found your post #324 http://forums.comicbookresources.com...vengers/page22 in this thread suggesting the essentials and its a great help but with the amount of tie ins and different branches of Avengers its a bit of a pain for a newcomer like myself.

    I certainly understand that the objective of these tie ins are to make money but damn, It isn't exactly beginner friendly . Anyway as i said i have used your order from post #324 but added a few titles and wondered if the reading order i have added the titles in looks right?

    I also

    Avengers Disassembled
    New Avengers vol 1: Breakout
    New Avengers vol 2: The Sentry
    House of M
    Civil War
    The Death of Captain America vol 1-3
    Thor vol 1
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    Invincible Iron Man: The Five Nightmares
    New Avengers: Illuminati
    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Thor vol 2
    Mighty Avengers: Earth's Mightiest - (Mighty Avengers: Dark Reign - I dont like Hardback so decided to add the three TPB's that are in the hardback version. Earths Mightiest, The Unspoken and Siege: Mighty Avengers)
    Mighty Avengers: The Unspoken
    Thor vol 3
    Thor: Latverian Prometheus
    Captain America: Reborn
    Siege: Mighty Avengers
    Siege

    Sorry for being a pain i am sure this is the last thing you want to have to do when you come on here is rehash questions guys have probably asked numerous times.
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    No worries, mate! It's not a bother

    Yeah, tell me about it. One of the reasons I'm so active on this thread is because I know from experience that Marvel doesn't make it easy for new readers.

    That list I posted is pretty extensive - you probably don't need all of it to catch up on the Avengers. The books I added mostly delve into the details - for instance, why Thor is absent from Civil War but in Secret Invasion, how Captain America came back to life just before Siege, that sort of stuff.

    If you want to stick to the really bare essentials:

    Avengers Disassembled
    New Avengers vol 1: Breakout
    New Avengers vol 2: The Sentry
    Civil War
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution (sorry, I forgot to add this in earlier)
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    New Avengers: Illuminati
    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Mighty Avengers: Earth's Mightiest
    Mighty Avengers: The Unspoken
    Siege: Mighty Avengers
    Siege

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telos View Post
    No worries, mate! It's not a bother

    Yeah, tell me about it. One of the reasons I'm so active on this thread is because I know from experience that Marvel doesn't make it easy for new readers.

    That list I posted is pretty extensive - you probably don't need all of it to catch up on the Avengers. The books I added mostly delve into the details - for instance, why Thor is absent from Civil War but in Secret Invasion, how Captain America came back to life just before Siege, that sort of stuff.

    If you want to stick to the really bare essentials:

    Avengers Disassembled
    New Avengers vol 1: Breakout
    New Avengers vol 2: The Sentry
    Civil War
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution (sorry, I forgot to add this in earlier)
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    New Avengers: Illuminati
    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Mighty Avengers: Earth's Mightiest
    Mighty Avengers: The Unspoken
    Siege: Mighty Avengers
    Siege

    I can afford to go more than just the bare essentials, I have £260 which is around $400 to spend on this so getting the right books are more important than the money that's why i haven't ordered any Avengers titles yet because i want to get this right. I will add that from what i have been reading i also wanted to possibly get some Iron Man books like Demon in a Bottle, Extremis, Armor Wars, Haunted, Invincible Iron Man vol 1 and 2. Actually the more i think about it i may have to get some hardcover books simply because i have struggled to track down certain TPB's.

    I also have Planet Hulk and World War Hulk that's already in my collection and will be on my reading list. I think it's a bit OCD on my part that i like to have everything in place before i do anything. Stupid but hey that's me .

    Eventually i'd like to have a full reading list together so i dont have to worry about what's next and just enjoy the books. I have noticed a few other reading order's you have been kind enough to put up for other user's in this thread so i'll go through them too and have a look. I really like the look of the Thor books they look awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z1co80 View Post
    I can afford to go more than just the bare essentials, I have £260 which is around $400 to spend on this so getting the right books are more important than the money that's why i haven't ordered any Avengers titles yet because i want to get this right. I will add that from what i have been reading i also wanted to possibly get some Iron Man books like Demon in a Bottle, Extremis, Armor Wars, Haunted, Invincible Iron Man vol 1 and 2. Actually the more i think about it i may have to get some hardcover books simply because i have struggled to track down certain TPB's.

    I also have Planet Hulk and World War Hulk that's already in my collection and will be on my reading list. I think it's a bit OCD on my part that i like to have everything in place before i do anything. Stupid but hey that's me .

    Eventually i'd like to have a full reading list together so i dont have to worry about what's next and just enjoy the books. I have noticed a few other reading order's you have been kind enough to put up for other user's in this thread so i'll go through them too and have a look. I really like the look of the Thor books they look awesome.
    Great, I hope you enjoy it all!

    If you want to keep reading after Siege, there's more that has been released since. I'd suggest:

    Avengers Prime
    Iron Man/Thor: God Complex
    Thor: The World Eaters
    Fear Itself
    Avengers: The Children's Crusade
    Avengers: X-Sanction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telos View Post
    Great, I hope you enjoy it all!

    If you want to keep reading after Siege, there's more that has been released since. I'd suggest:

    Avengers Prime
    Iron Man/Thor: God Complex
    Thor: The World Eaters
    Fear Itself
    Avengers: The Children's Crusade
    Avengers: X-Sanction

    So if i started from Disassembled it would look like

    Avengers: Disassembled
    Secret War
    New Avengers Volume 1: Breakout
    New Avengers Volume 2: Sentry

    House of M

    Civil War
    The Death of Captain America vol 1-3
    Thor vol 1
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    Invincible Iron Man: The Five Nightmares

    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Thor vol 2
    Mighty Avengers: Dark Reign
    Thor vol 3
    Thor: Latverian Prometheus
    Captain America: Reborn

    Siege
    Avengers: The Initiative: Siege
    Avengers Prime
    Iron Man/Thor: God Complex
    Thor: The World Eaters
    Avengers vol 1
    Avengers vol 2
    Mighty Thor vol 1: The Galactus Seed

    Fear Itself
    Journey Into Mystery: Fear Itself
    Fear Itself: The Fearless
    Avengers vol 3
    Avengers: The Children's Crusade
    Avengers: X-Sanction

    I couldn't trouble you to show me where Planet Hulk, World War Hulk, Demon in a Bottle, Iron Monger, Extremis, Armor Wars, Haunted, War Machine, Hypervelocity, Deadly Solutions, Invincible Iron Man vol 1 and 2 would fit into the timeline could i?
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    Yep, your reading order is mostly correct! I've made a few minor alterations but you've got the gist of it. Here's what it looks like with the books you listed added in.

    Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle
    Iron Man: Iron Monger
    Iron Man: Armor Wars
    Iron Man: War Machine
    Iron Man: Deadly Solutions

    Avengers: Disassembled
    Secret War
    New Avengers Volume 1: Breakout
    New Avengers Volume 2: Sentry
    Planet Hulk (I can't remember if it's before or after House of M, but it's definitely before Civil War)
    House of M

    Civil War
    The Death of Captain America vol 1-3
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    Iron Man: Haunted
    Iron Man: Hypervelocity
    World War Hulk
    Thor vol 1
    Invincible Iron Man vol 1 (first half takes place before Secret Invasion, second half takes place after)

    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Thor vol 2
    Mighty Avengers: Dark Reign
    Thor vol 3
    Thor: Latverian Prometheus
    Captain America: Reborn

    Siege
    Invincible Iron Man vol 2 (first half takes place concurrently with Siege, second half takes place after)
    Avengers: The Initiative: Siege
    Avengers Prime
    Iron Man/Thor: God Complex
    Thor: The World Eaters
    Avengers vol 1
    Avengers vol 2
    Mighty Thor vol 1: The Galactus Seed

    Fear Itself
    Journey Into Mystery: Fear Itself
    Fear Itself: The Fearless
    Avengers vol 3
    Avengers: The Children's Crusade
    Avengers: X-Sanction

    I should let you know that Invincible Iron Man: The Five Nightmares contains some of the same issues as the Invincible Iron Man vol 1 hardcover. Don't buy The Five Nightmares if you don't want duplicates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telos View Post
    Yep, your reading order is mostly correct! I've made a few minor alterations but you've got the gist of it. Here's what it looks like with the books you listed added in.

    Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle
    Iron Man: Iron Monger
    Iron Man: Armor Wars
    Iron Man: War Machine
    Iron Man: Deadly Solutions

    Avengers: Disassembled
    Secret War
    New Avengers Volume 1: Breakout
    New Avengers Volume 2: Sentry
    Planet Hulk (I can't remember if it's before or after House of M, but it's definitely before Civil War)
    House of M

    Civil War
    The Death of Captain America vol 1-3
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    Iron Man: Haunted
    Iron Man: Hypervelocity
    World War Hulk
    Thor vol 1
    Invincible Iron Man vol 1 (first half takes place before Secret Invasion, second half takes place after)

    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Thor vol 2
    Mighty Avengers: Dark Reign
    Thor vol 3
    Thor: Latverian Prometheus
    Captain America: Reborn

    Siege
    Invincible Iron Man vol 2 (first half takes place concurrently with Siege, second half takes place after)
    Avengers: The Initiative: Siege
    Avengers Prime
    Iron Man/Thor: God Complex
    Thor: The World Eaters
    Avengers vol 1
    Avengers vol 2
    Mighty Thor vol 1: The Galactus Seed

    Fear Itself
    Journey Into Mystery: Fear Itself
    Fear Itself: The Fearless
    Avengers vol 3
    Avengers: The Children's Crusade
    Avengers: X-Sanction

    I should let you know that Invincible Iron Man: The Five Nightmares contains some of the same issues as the Invincible Iron Man vol 1 hardcover. Don't buy The Five Nightmares if you don't want duplicates.
    Yeah i noticed that about Invincible Iron Man when i was looking at the trade reading order website. I tried to PM you but i must not have PM'ing privileges yet because i cant edit my profile or anything.

    It was just a PM to say how much i appreciate you taking the time to do this for me mate. I certainly would be lost without this thread, site and help i have received. It makes me glad i joined the site.


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    Quote Originally Posted by z1co80 View Post
    Yeah i noticed that about Invincible Iron Man when i was looking at the trade reading order website. I tried to PM you but i must not have PM'ing privileges yet because i cant edit my profile or anything.

    It was just a PM to say how much i appreciate you taking the time to do this for me mate. I certainly would be lost without this thread, site and help i have received. It makes me glad i joined the site.

    Yeah, unfortunately the site doesn't let new users send or receive private messages until they've reached 20 or 25 posts. It's supposed to stop spammers, but I find it very annoying to be honest.

    Thanks a lot! It's good to know my efforts, and this website, are helping someone out. Hope you decide to stay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telos View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately the site doesn't let new users send or receive private messages until they've reached 20 or 25 posts. It's supposed to stop spammers, but I find it very annoying to be honest.

    Thanks a lot! It's good to know my efforts, and this website, are helping someone out. Hope you decide to stay!
    Looking through the list you posted i noticed that Extremis wasn't listed but would i be right in saying that it is just after House of M?

    Anyway i have made my order but had to cut a few books. The books i cut were ones that i asked you to add like Secret War, Iron Man: Haunted, Iron Man: Hypervelocity, Director of SHIELD.

    I didn't want to cut any of the ones you said were essential reading so i thought it was best to lose some of the ones i mentioned. I had mentioned them because i had read they were really good but i am sure i could pick them up at a later date. My order looked like:

    Avengers: Disassemble
    New Avengers Volume 1: Breakout
    New Avengers Volume 2: Sentry

    House of M
    Iron Man: Extremis

    The Death of Captain America vol 1-3
    New Avengers vol 6: Revolution
    Mighty Avengers vol 1: The Ultron Initiative
    New Avengers vol 7: The Trust
    Mighty Avengers vol 2: Venom Bomb
    Thor vol 1
    Invincible Iron Man vol 1

    Secret Invasion
    Dark Avengers vol 1
    Thor vol 2
    Mighty Avengers: Dark Reign
    Thor vol 3
    Thor: Latverian Prometheus
    Captain America: Reborn

    I will start my next order from Siege through to Avengers:X Sanction and will most likely pick up the Iron man books like Demon in a Bottle, Armor Wars etc at a later date. As i already own Planet Hulk, World War Hulk and Civil War i have plenty of reading to do until i get to Siege and honestly i cant wait to started. It's amazing how quickly the money runs out due to damn delivery costs It's a pity i am not rich because i could have went crazy lol.

    Books cant come quick enough.
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    Thought I would just post to let you know how I've gotten on;

    Read all of the first Captain America omnibus and loved it, I've also already read Extremis and read through Civil War to tie in with Cap. Managed to find a copy of the death of Captain America omnibus over the weekend and I'm about half way through. I must admit the more I read the more I want to know/read more about other characters in the Marvel universe, which I'm quite enjoying. I keep hearing/reading good things about Journey into Mystery but I want to wait until I've caught upto Fear Itself before diving in there.

    I just wondered would getting JMS vol1 be a good starting place for Thor? Would I need a lot of background knowledge?

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonwalker View Post
    Thought I would just post to let you know how I've gotten on;

    Read all of the first Captain America omnibus and loved it, I've also already read Extremis and read through Civil War to tie in with Cap. Managed to find a copy of the death of Captain America omnibus over the weekend and I'm about half way through. I must admit the more I read the more I want to know/read more about other characters in the Marvel universe, which I'm quite enjoying. I keep hearing/reading good things about Journey into Mystery but I want to wait until I've caught upto Fear Itself before diving in there.

    I just wondered would getting JMS vol1 be a good starting place for Thor? Would I need a lot of background knowledge?

    Thanks again!
    That's great Jon. Did the Omnibus you bought cover vol.5 1-25? I was thinking of getting it but the $60 price tag on Amazon scared me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gforce99 View Post
    That's great Jon. Did the Omnibus you bought cover vol.5 1-25? I was thinking of getting it but the $60 price tag on Amazon scared me off.
    Yeah that's the one, I'm rather new to comics in general and I can't recommend that book enough. Reading the death of Captain America and the way Brubaker has built upto this makes me want to read more and more. My favourite issue in that omnnibus was actually the Winter Soldier: Winter Kills, the way Brubaker builds the character is s good.

    If you're worried about the price I paid £43 which is about $67 and I don't regret it at all.

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