THUNDERBOLTS #120 - Discussion

[Dr. Chaos]

Yes people who want to stop murederous criminals do deserve to die. Being right is so misguided

When your best idea of justice is killing fellow heroes and security guards (giving people cancer? WTF?) to frame law enforcement in a sick telepathic game, yes, they sure do have the moral high ground.

These guys are idiots.

They're not heroes, they're just murderers, just like half The Thunderbolts.

Bottomline, I do not flat out give a **** about heroes when I'm reading this book, I want to see pumpkin bombs flying and brains being eaten, it's not about justice, it's about sadism and corruption, really.

[Gnarl]

Norman Osbourne is the one villain who is not going to be too fazed by OMD. You'd think the complete illogic of not remembering Spider-mans identitiy would get to him. But he always rolled like that

Remember the identity, forget it, remember, forget it...

OMD was an insane truckload of self-contadictory waste to most of us. To Norman it was tuesday.

[mikekerr3]

Do you hope that ALL villains in every comic die? Because thats what they are. It's a book about villains and they do villainous things.

The only way I could see people being outraged or offended by this comic is if they were unaware of what they were reading.

Not outraged or offended, just liked the old T-bolts better, let Robbie and Chen get out and kill off the rest already. The idea of a goverment backed group of supervillians is getting tired.

[killerbass]

Stake Claimer:

This was the best comic of the year.

I liked it so much; I wanted to run back to the comic book store and buy another copy.

Good grief; so worth the wait!

--Tom

[KetchFrayz]

Stake Claimer:

This was the best comic of the year.

I liked it so much; I wanted to run back to the comic book store and buy another copy.

Good grief; so worth the wait!

--Tom

co-signs 100%

[TotalWorldDomination]

Does Green Goblin count as the villain in this story? It's kinda hard to tell.

That's one of the most wonderful things about the story! to quote tracy jordan on the wonderful program 30 Rock he's "straight up mentally ill!" He's insane, he's wacked, he's a person with SEVERE mental disorders trying to do what he thinks is right. And he happens to think that he is god... so pretty much anything he dose is right. It's glorious.

co-signs 100%

Motion Thirded. If there are no objections we shall proceed to a floor vote.

[StoneGold]

The only thing I didn't like about this comic, when Ellis let slip a few British phrases during Osborn's rants. But if it was the only way he could get the insanity out, screw it, I'll take them. They were a little odd, but they weren't reality breaking.

[Rahul]

The only thing I didn't like about this comic, when Ellis let slip a few British phrases during Osborn's rants. But if it was the only way he could get the insanity out, screw it, I'll take them. They were a little odd, but they weren't reality breaking.

I'm not British, so can you enlighten us which ones sound so?


Anyway, terrific issue, Ellis writes the Greenest Goblin there is, and the art is rocktacular.

My only complaint is ...where's Bullseye?

[Pixie_Solanas]

Just when I thought the arc was starting to drag, Ellis pulls a stunner of an issue out of his arse.

LOVE IT. I can't find fault with a single bit of it.

Now, as was mentioned before, let's bring Bullseye back, mmkay?

[Magneto Rocks]

This may be the single greatest thing ever published in the history of the printed page.

I want to take "So says President Goblin!" and frame it on my wall.

[Tobias Drake]

....this IS my week for being wrong. ASM, GoG, and now this.

I knew Osborn was suiting back up, so I expected crap. I've never liked the Green Goblin as a character, with the exception of the Spectacular Spider-Man series that managed to sell him quite successfully to me. I've always liked Norman the mastermind, but hated Norman the Joker Riding A Mechanical Bat. He's just never worked for me.

But holy crap, this was good. I completely take back everything I've said about the Green Goblin. I mean...damn. That was good.

[agrich]

Yeah, I didn't think a comic could ever change my feelings of disdain for them resurrecting Norman Osborn, but this one came close. Ellis in peak form. I mean, I've enjoyed the entire run, but this one was a classic.

[StoneGold]

I'm not British, so can you enlighten us which ones sound so?

Truthfully, it's not so much that they are British, as they aren't American, and I'm just assuming they're British. I'd be specific, but I don't have the issue in front of me right now. It's one or two of the insults. For all I know, it could just be Ellis making stuff up, but they just don't sound very American. And after Norman's presidential rant, they should.

[CyberHubbs]

I don't know if it was the bee's knees as everyone was making it out to be, but it was definitely Norman in top form. Too bad the entire thing was just psychic suggestions.

...or was it?!

[Dr. Chaos]

I don't know if it was the bee's knees as everyone was making it out to be, but it was definitely Norman in top form. Too bad the entire thing was just psychic suggestions.

...or was it?!

Going by the way they almost got Chen to blast everyone on the mountain, and he's a pretty alright guy these days, it's definitely not something that they're all doing in their right mind.

The fact that Venom, Norman and such are who they are, it makes them extremely good targets for manipulation becuase chances are most people probably wouldn't be able to notice the difference.