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    Default How would you rate the Superman/Batman series ?

    Must have, Read it, Check it or just pass it ? I only browsed through them really quick at my LCS, but they don't have alot of 'em. So i ask here if this serie is worth my time/money hunting for them. Any feedback is appreciated.

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    The first few years with Loeb and McGuinness were pretty fun. Not great comics, by any stretch, but entertaining superhero stories. The past couple years have been horrible, though. I don't even bother checking it out anymore.
    Go !@#$ yourself.

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    Are they seperated storyline who doesn't really link to everything in the Dc universe ? Or the stories are..."cannon" if i may say ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack00 View Post
    Are they seperated storyline who doesn't really link to everything in the Dc universe ? Or the stories are..."cannon" if i may say ?
    While B/S is set in the DC Universe, it's pretty self-contained. It does it's own thing and isn't really reflected in other series. Basically, it's canon unless something else comes out that says it's not.
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    I've been getting caught up on this series and I am up to issue #43. To me, I think it has been pretty good fun. It is much more like an old 80s superhero book than most of the newer comics.

    It doesn't really tie in much at all with the regular Batman or Superman books, but there is a bit of self reference in the story lines, as the recent Darkseid story does reference a couple of the earlier runs. The alien storyline a few issues back was not great, but I liked the one with Darkseid, Bekka and Desaad.

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    I loved the Supergirl arc.:D

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    Did i post in the wrong board or this serie is just not that popular ?

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    It's Superman/Batman and it's been awful since day one where it turned Luthor of all people into a drug addict, continued by setting the painfully low standard for Supergirl's characterization which continues to this day; went off the rails with an incomprehensible storyline involving multiple realities that didn't exist before 52 and continues to troll around at the bottom of the creative ladder with its recent Kryptonite storyline.

    Kyle Baker once said that he got the job penciling Spider-man because no matter how bad he was it was still Spider-man and so would still sell no matter what. Putting Superman and Batman is a similar circumstance. No matter how bad it is, it survives on the sheer momentum of the characters.

    But the art has been pretty nice, with the exception of Michael Turner. The Carlos Pacheco run was particularly beautiful. Spend your money on some World's Finest reprints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorstThingUS View Post
    It's Superman/Batman and it's been awful since day one where it turned Luthor of all people into a drug addict, continued by setting the painfully low standard for Supergirl's characterization which continues to this day; went off the rails with an incomprehensible storyline involving multiple realities that didn't exist before 52 and continues to troll around at the bottom of the creative ladder with its recent Kryptonite storyline.
    QFT. I've gone off on so many lengthy "Public Enemies is one of the worst DC stories of all time" rants that I didn't want to be a broken record here, so thanks for stepping up to the plate.

    In short, Jack00: pass it. There are much better Supes/Bats team-up books to spend your money on, like the aforementioned World's Finest.
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    the start of the book was good imo, but the last year(s) it really gone bad.
    I canceled it after the Pacheco run.

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    I like this current arc with Michael Green and Shane Davis. The writing is solid. Davis' art is outstanding to me, especially the last issue (#45) with Aquaman and the underwater panels. The only other Superman/Batman I've read in the past was "The World's Finest" arc and it was alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorstThingUS View Post
    It's Superman/Batman and it's been awful since day one where it turned Luthor of all people into a drug addict, continued by setting the painfully low standard for Supergirl's characterization which continues to this day; went off the rails with an incomprehensible storyline involving multiple realities that didn't exist before 52 and continues to troll around at the bottom of the creative ladder with its recent Kryptonite storyline.

    Kyle Baker once said that he got the job penciling Spider-man because no matter how bad he was it was still Spider-man and so would still sell no matter what. Putting Superman and Batman is a similar circumstance. No matter how bad it is, it survives on the sheer momentum of the characters.

    But the art has been pretty nice, with the exception of Michael Turner. The Carlos Pacheco run was particularly beautiful. Spend your money on some World's Finest reprints.
    Thx man, that's what i call good feedback. I guess i'll pass it on it for now, maybe i can find them for cheap at a later time, i already have more important singles to hunt for now. Thx to everyone too btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack00 View Post
    Did i post in the wrong board or this serie is just not that popular ?
    We usually put the Superman-Batman threads on the Superman board, but that's really pretty arbitrary (though DC also lists it with their Superman titles), which is why I left it here. Tell you what, I'll copy the thread to the Superman forum and you can look there to see if there are any additional comments.
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    The Loeb & McGuiness Superman/Batman comics won the Oscar for Greatest Comics Ever Made by a bunch of 13 year old boys on a sugar rush.

    The others are of varying levels of quality.

    The way Loeb & McGuiness end their run is quite ingenious. The villains for the overall series could not be more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwe1138 View Post
    While B/S is set in the DC Universe, it's pretty self-contained. It does it's own thing and isn't really reflected in other series. Basically, it's canon unless something else comes out that says it's not.
    I disagree with this. If anything, Superman/Batman has been a spawning ground for many of the elements that have later come into play in the DC mainstream. Volume 1 alluded to the coming Crisis, Volume 2 brought Supergirl back into the fold and showcased the Third World, Volumes 3 and 4 dealt heavily in aspects of the Multiverse (which up to that point was still only beginning to brew in the DCU). Volume 4 even ended with a conversation between Darkseid and Mxyzptlk discussing Darkseid's importance in Final Crisis (which will be seen in the coming weeks). Since then we've seen similar story elements in the more recent arcs. 5 and 6 weren't fantastic, but the current arc has been pretty good so far (two issues in).

    In short, I've enjoyed it both as a team book and as a primer for larger events in DC; it's been consistently better than Richard Donner's wet dream over in Action Comics(now mercifully over).
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