Brand New Day - Amazing Spider-man #550 - SPOILERS!!!

[ShaggyB]

Ok its Wednesday, Nearing Noon. Thats when my store gets its books out on the table. Whos read this and can post detailed spoilers?

[DeadXMan]

jack pot dosn't know jack about new york
Meniace isn't messing around with Spidey
and The cops look like they are gonna kick some spider-ass
good book:D

[ShaggyB]

lol a bit more detailed would be cool. From what ive seen alot of peeps label Menace as a cheap hobgoblin.

Hows jackpot doing after trying to help dude take spideys mask off. Thats all ive seen so far. Store run at 5pm Eastern

[DeadXMan]

lol a bit more detailed would be cool. From what ive seen alot of peeps label Menace as a cheap hobgoblin.

Hows jackpot doing after trying to help dude take spideys mask off. Thats all ive seen so far. Store run at 5pm Eastern

no Goblin and electro ;)

you have a novice superherine and z lister that was last seen in Dazzler's Solo
against the Amazing Spider-ma, one guess what happens ( and it envols one liners)
and she brought Pete coffee after Menace cuts him open and drop him in the Hudson.

[Shade 20x6]

I'm officially fed up with Marvel's crap.

Jackpot is apparently not MJ, but someone named...Sarah Ehret...or something like that (can't remember, I just scanned the book and put it back like I do every week).

This makes NO SENSE whatsoever. It's like Marvel said "it's obvious it's MJ, and everyone knows it's MJ, so let's just throw them a curveball for the hell of it."

Look, I have no problem with misleading people, as long as the mislead makes sense in the end. This one doesn't. The "suspension of disbelief" factor is taking a beating from Marvel these days.

I hated Jackpot when I thought she was just MJ in a lame costume with a lame name, but at least it made sense...sorta. This makes Jackpot about 1000 times more lame now.

Brand New Day is such a load of nonsensical crap, and it just keeps getting worse. I'm soooo glad I'm not wasting my money on this crap.

*takes deep breath*

Anyway...

Menace, I think, has some ties to a former Goblin, as he compares himself to "the Goblin" (he doesn't specify which one), but basically says that he won't screw around like the other Goblin did, and if Spider-Man screws with him again, he'll "put him into the ground." Of course, if Menace REALLY weren't screwing around, he'd have killed Spidey when he had him at his mercy in this issue. This also tells me that Menace's primary goal is not to kill Spider-Man, so he obviously has another main agenda.

[JDanknich]

Actually, I think the name "Sara Ehret" is an in-joke by Marc Guggenheim. I ran a Google search on the name and it showed that there was a character named "Sara Ehret" on the old WB show "Jack & Bobby." Marc Guggenheim was a writer for that show, so I'm guessing that's where he got the name from. So Jackpot could still be MJ.

[DeadXMan]

so you missed the part were they retcon Flash thompson being spider-man?

:rolleyes:

and note the "...." before she saids Sara Erhret

she's making it up. ( i Think that was Marrow's alias she used EDIT see Jack and Bobby easter egg)


how about you read the book to get the facts on what you hate right.
( Please DL it cause people who read the new books in the shop and put them back are worse to LCS owner then the Pirates)

[timbox]

Guggenheim writes great Spider-Man dialog. Good issue.

[Monty_Cristo]

Menace, I think, has some ties to a former Goblin, as he compares himself to "the Goblin" (he doesn't specify which one), but basically says that he won't screw around like the other Goblin did, and if Spider-Man screws with him again, he'll "put him into the ground." Of course, if Menace REALLY weren't screwing around, he'd have killed Spidey when he had him at his mercy in this issue. This also tells me that Menace's primary goal is not to kill Spider-Man, so he obviously has another main agenda.

that means it's not Harry. he hates Spider-man and would have, likely, killed him.

[stillanerd]

Actually, I think the name "Sara Ehret" is an in-joke by Marc Guggenheim. I ran a Google search on the name and it showed that there was a character named "Sara Ehret" on the old WB show "Jack & Bobby." Marc Guggenheim was a writer for that show, so I'm guessing that's where he got the name from. So Jackpot could still be MJ.

Also, there was a reporter character named "Sarah Ehret" (rather than "Sara") on the ABC show, "The Practice," which was another TV series Guggenheim worked on as a writer. So you could very well be correct in saying that it is an in-joke by Guggenheim and another moment where Jackpot is teasing Spider-Man. However, like most inside jokes, if you don't get the reference, then it really flies over people's head, especially since it making reference to an obscure supporting character reference from TV shows Guggenheim worked on. And if it IS Jackpot's real name, then Shade 20x6 is absolutely right--it does comes out of nowhere and does make Jackpot even less interesting than she already was. After all, the only reason why anyone was paying any attention to her at all was because there's the belief she's Mary Jane, which of course opens up all kinds of questions. But if she's not Mary Jane, why should readers even care?

EDIT: of course, Jackpot looks clearly annoyed when Spidey "reveals" his name to be "Flash Thompson" and her giving him the name "Sara Ehret" can suggest:

1. That if she is Mary Jane and also knows Spider-Man is Peter--meaning of course, knows Flash Thompson is not Spider-Man--then it proves to her the double standard Spidey is applying with regards to revealing their identities.
2. Her answer of "Not so much, no," implies sarcastically that, while she may in fact be Mary Jane, she doesn't actually have time herself because she's so busy being "Jackpot." It's like when the Joker in the first Batman movie asks if Bruce Wayne is who he says he is and he responds with "Most of the time." Same difference.

[Shade 20x6]

that means it's not Harry. he hates Spider-man and would have, likely, killed him.

Maybe Menace is also Sara Ehret. :p

[JDanknich]

Good catch on the "other" Sarah Ehret, stillanerd.

I dunno... I'm still thinking Jackpot has to be MJ. If she's not, then, well it's hard to make people any more angry then they are, so maybe the powers that be will do just that. :)

But I do agree with both points you made. If MJ is Jackpot, then I think MJ is spending most of her time as Jackpot, possibly to be closer to Peter, possibly to experience what a hero's life is like. Or neither. I guess we'll find out next ish. (I hope.)

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Well, not too bad an issue.

For some reason, when I was reading the conversation between Peter and Lily, I thought, "Holy shit. I think Menace is...Lily!"*


And no way is that Jackpot's real name.

And...yeah, not too bad an issue. Not the best thus far, but not bad.





*Hey, it's possible!

[Shade 20x6]

Good catch on the "other" Sarah Ehret, stillanerd.

I dunno... I'm still thinking Jackpot has to be MJ. If she's not, then, well it's hard to make people any more angry then they are, so maybe the powers that be will do just that. :)

But I do agree with both points you made. If MJ is Jackpot, then I think MJ is spending most of her time as Jackpot, possibly to be closer to Peter, possibly to experience what a hero's life is like. Or neither. I guess we'll find out next ish. (I hope.)

And if MJ is Jackpot, Peter pretty much gave away his secret identity by interrogating her (assuming she didn't already know).

[Chiasm]

The best BND issue thus far by a wide margin. Although when everything before it was in the crapper pile its not like it was hard to do.

Beyond all the other insanity going on, does anyone really think Peter would have any doubts whether Jackpot is MJ or not? Its not like the mask covers much of her face. Even in this revamped continuity she was still his fiance for hecks sake. He would know if it was her or not by what he can see and wouldn't need to ask. I know this is the comic book world where we are supposed to accept that no one knows Clark Kent is Superman because he wears glasses but c'mon that was a lame 1930's plot device that modern day creators are still saddled with. This is the 21st century, lets act like it and lets demand it in our comics.

Personally I think Jackpot is MJ. And I think she remembers everything.