Whedon's Astonishing X-Men Mega thread

[NewMutant]

The first arc *did* kill whatever momentum the run might eventually have had, but Ellis' 2nd and 3nd arc were fine.

Agreed. The art was much better and the stories were a little less crazy. However, the delays still killed it.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Agreed. The art was much better and the stories were a little less crazy. However, the delays still killed it.

I gotta say, the *really* frustrating thing is that there were next to no delays for the first 2-3 issues of both ExoGenetic & Xenogenesis.

The pill would've been a lot easier to swallow had there been no hope for decent release dates to begin with. At some point, it just became: 'Huh. AXM is out. Might as well not remove it from my pull list, eh.'

[Toboe]

Astonishing X-Men has definitely been my favorite x-book in recent years, under both Whedon and Ellis.

Of course it has its flaws. The delays were a real nuisance, and I wasn't too crazy about plots like the Breakworld or some of Ellis's overwhealming sci-fi concepts. But overall the stories have been entertaining and the character work has been pretty good.

[Handsome One]

Astonishing under Ellis sucked. He had some interesting ideas, but they were too scattered amid repetitive character cliches and anticlimactic plotlines. Basically, he wrote every X-man with their caricature personality, and his plots were too similar and not worthy of the amount of issues they took up. Granted, I should say that I stopped reading after Xenogenesis #1, because I couldn't stomach it anymore.

[GambitXRemy]

Joss axm, grants new x-men and I would put on that list mike careys x-men.

Fractions also done a lot. But not on the same level as those three have. But joss and grant didn't have to deal withb cross overs or any of that stuff

[rescura]

Morrison/Quitely and Whedon/Cassaday did the best X-Men comics of the last 10+ years, IMO.
The only creative team currently that I could see catching up with them would be Carey/Bachalo, if only they had the editorial push needed!

[darknessatnoon]

You are not allowed to create opinion threads.

[timbox]

You are not allowed to create opinion threads.

The reasons provided are factual statements.

[darknessatnoon]

The reasons provided are factual statements.

Then he needs to create a new thread.

[timbox]

Then he needs to create a new thread.

On whose authority?

[darknessatnoon]

On whose authority?

The authority inherent in the rules. You want to throw those out the window, then we have chaos.

[BBeeryan]

I've only read Astonishing under Ellis, so I might be a bit biased when I say this, but Astonishing was leaps and bounds ahead of the other X-books that came out around the same time. Of course there are some exceptions. But for the most part, I agree with the OP.

[timbox]

You want to throw those out the window, then we have chaos.

Is that a question? I think you know my answer.

[NewMutant]

I tend to agree, I think AXM was probably the most solid run the x-franchise has had in a while

It only had like 36 issues in the past 7 years. The story might be more solid and create a better run, but it hurts the X-line in the long run.

Plus, his plots are a little off for a core X-title. Fraction should have ploted while Ellis did dialogue.

[GambitXRemy]

i would say careys been the most consent writer in the last ten years and also have been on for almost the longest,

I would put peter david in there but his x-factor series almost got the cut in the beginning and that secret invasion she hulk cross over was god awful