Is Thor an alien?

[Will.S]

Here's a question for ha. We all talk about how strong Thor is... Am I the only one who remember Thor's BELT OF STRENGTH, which doubles his strength. MEANING Thor isn't really as powerfull as he shows. With out the Belt or Hammer, he would seem more like a regular ETERNAL!!!

I've rarely seen Thor use the belt of strength.

Did he ever use it in recent times?

[Sabaition]

I've rarely seen Thor use the belt of strength.

Did he ever use it in recent times?

I don't know. I've always been under the impression/assumption it's on at all times. Otherwise you would think he would activate it when fighting with creatures like the Hulk, Gladiator, Thanos or Hercules. I'm betting it's one of those forgotten facts no writer has ever recalled...

Could you imagine the belt being yanked off in the middle of a battle. That would change things. MAN, why hasn't Thanos/someone stolen that b@$%& yet, lol...

Unless I missed something. Someone on here is bound to know for sure.

[Cthulhudrew]

Okay so this had me wondering so I searched, talked to friends and looked at some books andthis is what I've gathered... Marvel redid everything with the ETERNALS books. So now that the Asgardians, Olympians and others are off shots of the Eternals.

Like I said above, the Asgardians, Olympians, and Eternals are all different groups. That's long been (and currently still is) the case at Marvel.

Otherwise, you're right (about the Eternals/Titanians).

Also, just for the record, Thanos is often called a Demigod. Likely in reference to his Eternal status as a cosmically powerful being, but one who is not worshipped by mortals. (Although, come to think of it, Thanos has been worshipped by mortals at times, and might thus blur the line somewhat.)

[Cthulhudrew]

IIRC, Thor used the Belt of Strength during Jurgens' run when he went up against Thanos and Mangog. Not positive though.

As for why he wouldn't use it all the time, best reason I could think of would be his overblown sense of honor- he might feel it was cheating if he used it against all but the mightiest of foes.

[Sabaition]

Like I said above, the Asgardians, Olympians, and Eternals are all different groups. That's long been (and currently still is) the case at Marvel.

Otherwise, you're right (about the Eternals/Titanians).

Also, just for the record, Thanos is often called a Demigod. Likely in reference to his Eternal status as a cosmically powerful being, but one who is not worshipped by mortals. (Although, come to think of it, Thanos has been worshipped by mortals at times, and might thus blur the line somewhat.)

It's one of those things, the more yo look into it, the more confusing it seems to become. I was sure the Asgardians and Olympians were supposed off shots.

But I think I FINALLY found something of use... Maybe... I know how the "Rules" on this board sometimes doesn't except this kind of info for some reason.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Asgardians

[Red Orion]

I don't know. I've always been under the impression/assumption it's on at all times. Otherwise you would think he would activate it when fighting with creatures like the Hulk, Gladiator, Thanos or Hercules. I'm betting it's one of those forgotten facts no writer has ever recalled...

Could you imagine the belt being yanked off in the middle of a battle. That would change things. MAN, why hasn't Thanos/someone stolen that b@$%& yet, lol...

Unless I missed something. Someone on here is bound to know for sure.

You're wrong, Thor has only worn his Belt of Strength on four occasions that I can remember: when he invaded Hel, when he fought Kurse, when he confronted Exitar the Celestial and when he fought a powered-up Thanos clone. You're also wrong about them being offshoots of the Eternals and I have no idea where you got this Titan thing from or Asgardians needing to use items but that's wrong as well.

[Red Orion]

Although Thor has his own superhuman strength, speed, & skill, his Uru hammer is the source of his powers of flight, his ability to control the weather, warp space & time (later removed), etc al. When Beta Ray Bill became Thor, Thor himself eventually lost all of immortal powers because it went to Beta Ray Bill which cause Thor to revert back to Donald Blake. Much of Thor's powers derive from his mystical Uru hammer.

Uh, no. Thor has shown he has innate weather-control powers on multiple occasions and has stated he only uses Mjolnir as a focus on even more occasions. And Thor turned back into Donald Blake before Bill even touched the hammer becuase of the 60 second limit Odin placed on the hammer.

[Sabaition]

You're wrong, Thor has only worn his Belt of Strength on four occasions that I can remember: when he invaded Hel, when he fought Kurse, when he confronted Exitar the Celestial and when he fought a powered-up Thanos clone. You're also wrong about them being offshoots of the Eternals and I have no idea where you got this Titan thing from or Asgardians needing to use items but that's wrong as well.

The Titan's on the moon Titan were Eternals who left earth. An all the Asgardians have a weapon to "Channel" their powers. An the Asgardians being offshots was something I had assumed after some things I had read in the past. Like how the Olyimpians are Titans (although not the same Titans). So it's just alil confusing once you try to actually put it together. That's why i said some one on here would know for sure. But if your right about the belt, then does he ever give a reason for not using it? Also why I said screw it and checked the marvel.com site. Infortunately it was after I put up what I had assumed.

And I'm never wrong. Simple miss informed till the pieces are put together.

[Stewy4429]

As far as I can gather, Asgard is another world so I suppose you could describe it's inhabitants as aliens/extradimentionals. But they are certainly gods.

But then again, what IS a god exactly? In the Marvel U this is especially vauge as there are lots of beings running around with powers that could be called godlike. (Galactus to name but one)

I really liked this answer!

It honestly depends on what you mean by "god" when you ask this question. If you look at a god as something/somebody that controls at least part of the universe, then Galactus could be a god of sorts. If you mean something like the Christian God, then no, I don't think he qualifies as this. Instead, I have always seen Thor as a true god like the Greeks and Romans worshipped. I guess anybody who came from somewhere besides earth could be seen as an "alien"... but I never really considered him that. Granted, some people are covering his history very well- but this is just my opinion. I think he is more god than alien, but he could be both...

[seekquaze]

The Titan's on the moon Titan were Eternals who left earth. An all the Asgardians have a weapon to "Channel" their powers. An the Asgardians being offshots was something I had assumed after some things I had read in the past. Like how the Olyimpians are Titans (although not the same Titans). So it's just alil confusing once you try to actually put it together. That's why i said some one on here would know for sure. But if your right about the belt, then does he ever give a reason for not using it? Also why I said screw it and checked the marvel.com site. Infortunately it was after I put up what I had assumed.

And I'm never wrong. Simple miss informed till the pieces are put together.

Okay, this is my attempt to clear things up.

Gods-The gods in the MU for Earth have no clear-cut origin. One of the more popular theories is the Elder gods first formed from Earth's lifeforce (demiurge). They became demons mostly and Atum killed them save a few who either fled or were good. The left over energy formed the basis for the following generations of gods. From the early dreams of mankind's collective unconscious the gods were formed. While perhaps formed from the dreams of mankind they do not rely on mankind for power. Their power is static unless they artificially increased, but they do not draw power from worshipers. Gods are set apart from other beings by drawing upon a specific type of mystical energy that resides within them. That is what the god-hunter Desak seeks out.

Most of the myths have some basis in the "true history" of the gods, but are at least partially inaccurate. An example is Typhon whom Greek myths exaggerated his power and size. As far as I know the Titans of Greek myth have never been shown in the MU.

Eternals-Creations of the Celestials and use a type of cosmic energy instead of mystical. Some of them have been mistaken as Olympians due to physical similarities and an old agreement between the two parties supported this. The Eternals of Titan while sometimes called Titans are no way related to the Greek gods biologically. Eternals may be very similar to gods and even considered gods, but because they do not tape mystical energy they are Eternals and not gods.

Belt of Strength-Thor does have a belt of strength, but he does not wear it all of the time. Most of the time he relies on his own colossal strength and the powers of his hammer. He has used it on occassion where he needs extra physical power. One reason stated that he doesn't use it often is it leaves him severely drained afterwards. That and he is already so powerful in most situations he does not need it or the extra strength would not help much.

[Shellhead]

Most of the myths have some basis in the "true history" of the gods, but are at least partially inaccurate. An example is Typhon whom Greek myths exaggerated his power and size. As far as I know the Titans of Greek myth have never been shown in the MU.

Typhon has showed up a couple of times, in Avengers #49-50, he seized control of Mount Olympus until Hercules defeated him. Typhon broke free from his mystic exile to seek vengeance in Avengers #163, causing Iron Man to fight Hercules, until Beast, Iceman and some other member of the Champions (Black Widow?) helped them defeat him. Also, Ares had a couple of Titans operating as his henchmen in Avengers #98-100. I thought that they had similar names (Kratos & something-or-other), but Marvelunapp claims that they are too primitive to have names:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/yellowcrest.htm

[Sabaition]

Okay, this is my attempt to clear things up.

Gods-The gods in the MU for Earth have no clear-cut origin. One of the more popular theories is the Elder gods first formed from Earth's lifeforce (demiurge). They became demons mostly and Atum killed them save a few who either fled or were good. The left over energy formed the basis for the following generations of gods. From the early dreams of mankind's collective unconscious the gods were formed. While perhaps formed from the dreams of mankind they do not rely on mankind for power. Their power is static unless they artificially increased, but they do not draw power from worshipers. Gods are set apart from other beings by drawing upon a specific type of mystical energy that resides within them. That is what the god-hunter Desak seeks out.

Most of the myths have some basis in the "true history" of the gods, but are at least partially inaccurate. An example is Typhon whom Greek myths exaggerated his power and size. As far as I know the Titans of Greek myth have never been shown in the MU.

Eternals-Creations of the Celestials and use a type of cosmic energy instead of mystical. Some of them have been mistaken as Olympians due to physical similarities and an old agreement between the two parties supported this. The Eternals of Titan while sometimes called Titans are no way related to the Greek gods biologically. Eternals may be very similar to gods and even considered gods, but because they do not tape mystical energy they are Eternals and not gods.

Belt of Strength-Thor does have a belt of strength, but he does not wear it all of the time. Most of the time he relies on his own colossal strength and the powers of his hammer. He has used it on occassion where he needs extra physical power. One reason stated that he doesn't use it often is it leaves him severely drained afterwards. That and he is already so powerful in most situations he does not need it or the extra strength would not help much.

HOW DARE YOU!!! Coming here and clearing thing up. Nice work, but I guess the jury is still out on weither to call Thor an Alien or not.

[frilok]

thor is a god cause normal ppl belive in him or worship him if no one believed in him he would not exsist, an alien may exsist if u belive in them or not.

i might be backed up in that stament in the new thor series #1

[DMike]

Gods-The gods in the MU for Earth have no clear-cut origin. One of the more popular theories is the Elder gods first formed from Earth's lifeforce (demiurge). They became demons mostly and Atum killed them save a few who either fled or were good. The left over energy formed the basis for the following generations of gods. From the early dreams of mankind's collective unconscious the gods were formed. While perhaps formed from the dreams of mankind they do not rely on mankind for power. Their power is static unless they artificially increased, but they do not draw power from worshipers..

Well we do know that some of them are dependent upon worshippers for power, since we've seen some of the Babylonian gods after they've de-evolved into demons due to extended lack of worship in titles like Hellstorm (Ishtar and Marduk), Quasar (Ereshkigal), and Citizen V and the V Battalion (Marduk again).

[Red Orion]

Well we do know that some of them are dependent upon worshippers for power, since we've seen some of the Babylonian gods after they've de-evolved into demons due to extended lack of worship in titles like Hellstorm (Ishtar and Marduk), Quasar (Ereshkigal), and Citizen V and the V Battalion (Marduk again).

Actually the Ereshkigal in Quasar was a Deviant who took the name of the Babylonian goddess. She first appeared during the Celestial Saga in Thor's book. The real Ereshkigal is still around and appeared at an alliance of Death Gods in Thor Annual #10.