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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungG03 View Post
    This is why I hate Spidey comics outside ultimate. Ever since the orginal death of ay upAunt May.
    But recap...Peter knows of this mindwipe and maybe the person behind it. Who he get help from? Dr. Strange is the only guy I can think of.

    This mindwipe is immediately removed when he shows his face as if its not a secret anymore? Also guys like Wolvie, DD and psychics.....Until they in his presense, the mindwipe was working rite? Hold on does DD know Pete identity?

    Also when they remember history is still mess up a la the whole civil war crap rite...I mean no one other than the person who did the wipe knows rite? And if the civil war dont hold up then why the the statue in that FF world stay the same techniclly?
    was MJ who wanted this deal by Mephisto rite...I mean she was the one who said yes....and to save AUNT May; rite?
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    Suit yourself; I think the stories on their own are really enjoyable, screw long-term continuity. I honestly don't care. I feel that same way about everyone though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungG03 View Post
    This is why I hate Spidey comics outside ultimate. Ever since the orginal death of ay upAunt May.
    But recap...Peter knows of this mindwipe and maybe the person behind it. Who he get help from? Dr. Strange is the only guy I can think of.
    leading theory is madame web.

    This mindwipe is immediately removed when he shows his face as if its not a secret anymore? Also guys like Wolvie, DD and psychics.....Until they in his presense, the mindwipe was working rite? Hold on does DD know Pete identity?
    if he unmasks or is unmasked its gone.

    Mindwipe makes characters not make the connection as well.... instead they come up with the best answer that doesnt include pete being spidey... at least that they can buy.

    Example: Noman finds peter's camera taking shots of spidey... he assumes spidey is the photographer and peter is just a fence for him getting paid for shots of himself. (happened in NWTD)

    So Wolverine and psychics.... Psychics wouldnt check... Wolverine would assume something else.

    DD doesnt know any more... in 600 peter tries to tell him but DD says with all the issues hes had with his id going public that spidey should be thankful he got the genie back in the bottle and leaves.

    Also when they remember history is still mess up a la the whole civil war crap rite...I mean no one other than the person who did the wipe knows rite? And if the civil war dont hold up then why the the statue in that FF world stay the same techniclly?
    not sure i follow you... the statue was generations old... it crumbled not to hide his identity but in neglect.

    As to the helper.... maybe... maybe not. They could have just as easily wiped themselves. think like sentry.... reed helped him wipe it all once (read siege fallen) and he knew it would wipe his mind to do it.

    was MJ who wanted this deal by Mephisto rite...I mean she was the one who said yes....and to save AUNT May; rite?
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    according to OMD yes... but then NWTD says the mindwipe happened and peter knows of it... well Mephisto tells peter and mj they wont remember the deal... so thats a contradiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    Mindwipe makes characters not make the connection as well.... instead they come up with the best answer that doesnt include pete being spidey... at least that they can buy.
    In a world full of metahumans and mutants, there are a lot of reasons that I would think would be easier to buy than "He's Spider-Man."

    Example: Noman finds peter's camera taking shots of spidey... he assumes spidey is the photographer and peter is just a fence for him getting paid for shots of himself. (happened in NWTD)
    Case in point. The "made up" reason is actually more plausible in a realistic setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hangmanjury View Post
    Case in point. The "made up" reason is actually more plausible in a realistic setting.
    sorta... if i were norman peter would be on my suspect list... but then again he would have been from day one with the pics being so much better than anyone else....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    leading theory is madame web.



    So Wolverine and psychics.... Psychics wouldnt check... Wolverine would assume something else.

    DD doesnt know any more... in 600 peter tries to tell him but DD says with all the issues hes had with his id going public that spidey should be thankful he got the genie back in the bottle and leaves.
    How did Logan find out petes identity prior to new Avengers unveiling anyway? Was it when they fought Windingo in Spiderman?

    But It seem like Logan knew who Spidey was before he told the group at New Avengers.

    Oh and the statue thing. I was stating that thugh it was deterioting it still happen. So even though people got mindwipe these things still happen right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungG03 View Post
    How did Logan find out petes identity prior to new Avengers unveiling anyway? Was it when they fought Windingo in Spiderman?
    got me... i seem to recall a him using his sent to track spidey to peter.... but that could have been in ultimate marvel universe so...

    anyone?


    But It seem like Logan knew who Spidey was before he told the group at New Avengers.
    nah he didnt before the reveal... but he knew spidey smelled like spidey so he believed it was really him

    Oh and the statue thing. I was stating that thugh it was deterioting it still happen. So even though people got mindwipe these things still happen right?
    correct... to the best of our knowledge every event still happened. meaning peoples memories of them are foggy or they just hit a block and dont try to push the subject further.

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    I haven't read a Spiderman comic since the mid 90s, where is a good starting place pick up on current stuff? What is up with Peter and MJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jade View Post
    I haven't read a Spiderman comic since the mid 90s, where is a good starting place pick up on current stuff? What is up with Peter and MJ?
    I was like you. I hadn't read anything Spider-man since I was a boy. The place I started was with One More Day, and then Brand New Day. Those are pretty good places to pick things up. Peter and MJ are no longer married due to some reality changing magic by the demon Mephisto. That will be explored more in One More Day.
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    I have a question regarding the Clone Sage, though that was long ago. If (and this was how they had originally planned it) Peter was revealed to be the actual clone, while Reilly ended up be the real McCoy, why did MJ stay with Peter? And I know that it was later revealed that Reilly was the clone, but I still feel confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrimson View Post
    I have a question regarding the Clone Sage, though that was long ago. If (and this was how they had originally planned it) Peter was revealed to be the actual clone, while Reilly ended up be the real McCoy, why did MJ stay with Peter? And I know that it was later revealed that Reilly was the clone, but I still feel confused.
    MJ stayed with Peter, because he was the man she loved. They'd already been married for a little while and were expecting their first child.
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    And MJ didn't actually care if he was a clone, he was stil her Peter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewaos View Post
    And MJ didn't actually care if he was a clone, he was stil her Peter.
    But if they had it planned where Peter was the clone, when was the "original" cloned? Cause if before they had even started their dating, "Peter" (Reilly) was captured and then replaced with Peter the clone, then I would understand why MJ would stay with Peter the "clone." Because it was the clone who she fell in love with, not the "original" Peter.

    And whatever happened to the Gwen clone? Or for that matter, the real Gwen's daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    leading theory is madame web.



    if he unmasks or is unmasked its gone.

    Mindwipe makes characters not make the connection as well.... instead they come up with the best answer that doesnt include pete being spidey... at least that they can buy.

    Example: Noman finds peter's camera taking shots of spidey... he assumes spidey is the photographer and peter is just a fence for him getting paid for shots of himself. (happened in NWTD)

    So Wolverine and psychics.... Psychics wouldnt check... Wolverine would assume something else.

    DD doesnt know any more... in 600 peter tries to tell him but DD says with all the issues hes had with his id going public that spidey should be thankful he got the genie back in the bottle and leaves.



    not sure i follow you... the statue was generations old... it crumbled not to hide his identity but in neglect.

    As to the helper.... maybe... maybe not. They could have just as easily wiped themselves. think like sentry.... reed helped him wipe it all once (read siege fallen) and he knew it would wipe his mind to do it.



    according to OMD yes... but then NWTD says the mindwipe happened and peter knows of it... well Mephisto tells peter and mj they wont remember the deal... so thats a contradiction.
    If everybody forgot who Spider-Man was, that doesn't mean that he too would forget that people had once known. The only thing he doesn't remember is that he was once married to MJ because that part of his life was altered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    nah he didnt before the reveal... but he knew spidey smelled like spidey so he believed it was really him
    Didn't Wolverine know Spidey's secret identity for quite some time? I remember in the Spider-Man Vs. Wolverine one-shot from the late-1980s - the issue containing Ned Leeds' death - Wolvie smelling Peter, tracking him to his hotel room, and asking a costume-less Peter to come hunt Charlemagne with him.

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    Well, the original clone saga of the 70s had that twist. Peter won over the clone but he was not sure if he was the original. He asked Doctor Connors to do so examinations and see if he was the clone. But then he realised that he loved MJ and the clone would love Gwen, cause he was cloned before they started their relationship. So Peter through away Doctor Connors results.

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