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    When you run out of ideas for new magic, just take some old magic and change it's color! Congratulations you now have a new magic!

    How lost can a magic be if everyone and their little cousin can learn it? Zancrow gets a pass, since Hades was researching that stuff, but this is getting silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    When you run out of ideas for new magic, just take some old magic and change it's color! Congratulations you now have a new magic!

    How lost can a magic be if everyone and their little cousin can learn it? Zancrow gets a pass, since Hades was researching that stuff, but this is getting silly.
    it is 7 years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1505627 View Post
    it is 7 years later
    So? It was lost magic for so long that even Mavis calls it that. Mere 7 years time skip doesn't make it any less nonsensical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    So? It was lost magic for so long that even Mavis calls it that. Mere 7 years time skip doesn't make it any less nonsensical.
    it could have been released to the general public via the evil plan of someone.

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    Who? There's not really anyone in Grimoire Heart left who could/would do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Who? There's not really anyone in Grimoire Heart left who could/would do it.
    anyone else who could learn it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotech Master View Post
    That's what he said.
    I realised what a correct but still poor choice of words it was ten minutes after turning of my computer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    When you run out of ideas for new magic, just take some old magic and change it's color! Congratulations you now have a new magic!
    Yeah. It's not like the concept of god slaying magic had been introduced in the previous arc via a god-slayer counter-part to the main character and people were curious about it.

    Oh wait. It's exactly like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    How lost can a magic be if everyone and their little cousin can learn it? Zancrow gets a pass, since Hades was researching that stuff, but this is getting silly.
    It's hinted that she's connected to freaking Zeref. If anybody knows anything about lost magics it's going to be him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    Yeah. It's not like the concept of god slaying magic had been introduced in the previous arc via a god-slayer counter-part to the main character and people were curious about it.

    Oh wait. It's exactly like that.
    This doesn't change the fact that God Slayer magic is just Dragon Slayer magic... only black, in the slightest. Oh and supposedly stronger, but we know how that turned out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    It's hinted that she's connected to freaking Zeref. If anybody knows anything about lost magics it's going to be him.
    So, are you suggesting that Zeref nefarious plan is to teach lost magic to underprivileged kids?


    You know what? That's actually brilliant. I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    This doesn't change the fact that God Slayer magic is just Dragon Slayer magic... only black, in the slightest. Oh and supposedly stronger, but we know how that turned out.
    So this is less it not making sense and more you not liking God Slayer magic then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    So this is less it not making sense and more you not liking God Slayer magic then?
    I find the concept of God slayer magic quite silly, yes.

    What I think doesn't make sense is that suddenly random mages come out of woodworks knowing this supposedly "Lost" magic. As I said, it made sense with Zancrow since Hades was really into that stuff, but as more and more random people show up with it the moniker of "[B]Lost[/B ]Magic" seems misused to say at least.

    It may be just me, but I like when things that are introduced as badass and rare to stay badass and rare. Otherwise they are just made cheaper and consequently have to be nerfed so their (now numerous) users don't dominate the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    I find the concept of God slayer magic quite silly, yes.

    What I think doesn't make sense is that suddenly random mages come out of woodworks knowing this supposedly "Lost" magic. As I said, it made sense with Zancrow since Hades was really into that stuff, but as more and more random people show up with it the moniker of "[B]Lost[/B ]Magic" seems misused to say at least.

    It may be just me, but I like when things that are introduced as badass and rare to stay badass and rare. Otherwise they are just made cheaper and consequently have to be nerfed so their (now numerous) users don't dominate the story.
    Eh, we have like 3 characters who are Dragon slayers so far, and that's supposed to be rare too. That's just FT (4 if you count Laxus).

    1 more with Cobra (artificial).

    2 in ST.

    7 Dragon Slayers in total, 5 of which got taught by an actual dragon.

    Lucy gets like a gold key every arc and that's rare too.

    So I am certain we are way past the 'rare stays rare' point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    So, are you suggesting that Zeref nefarious plan is to teach lost magic to underprivileged kids?

    You know what? That's actually brilliant. I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be true.
    I dunno. But I shall repeat my thought about Shelia and her air god slayer magic being connected to Zeref possibly being connected to Zeref offing Zancrow.

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    Honestly, this opens up a lot of possibilities.

    Now we know God Slaying is actually a thing as opposed to GH guy being full of himself.

    This means there may likely by one GS for every DS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotech Master View Post
    So does God Slayer magic have a specific connection to Zeref, or just Shelia?
    Probably just Shellia, if Orga hasn't tripped anybody's sensors.

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    Can Wendy heal herself, or does that power only work on others? The magic power should be counterable by eating air, though I doubt she has the strength and anger that let Natsu eat Zancrow's God Slayer Element.
    Wendy said she can't heal herself in the previous arc (ch 217). Conversely, I wonder if Shellia can only heal herself, or also others.
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    It's not like we're talking about random schmoes. FT is made up of top or near top tier talents and deal with ridiculously high end magical problems, and the tournament is basically the Mage Olympics so it makes sense that the only people that get in are nigh-unique powerhouses.

    I mean, all the Dragon/God Slayers we saw were in either guilds with Mage Saint leaders/members, part of Dark Guilds whose leaders were pretty much at that level or higher themselves, or part of a guild that became top tier in only seven years. Wendy's a bit of an outlier since she was originally in a guild that had no Mage Saint level members, but that same guild was led by the last member of a legendary tribe and they were asked to send in members to go after the friggin' Oracion Seis despite all but three of their members (including Wendy and Charle) eventually being revealed to be imaginary. And she was given to them by a Fairy Tail member that was actually a prince from another dimension and non-naturally-magical counterpart to one of the Mage Saints/main arc villains, so she is arguably the MOST normal member of her entire backstory.
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