Rachel Summers/Grey Appreciation

[Novaya Havoc]

Yeah I agree here. It's Rachel's choice and given that she's not a great fashion/style person it appropriate. It's makes a nice change than having almost everyother X-woman list "model" as one of their occupations.

DAZZLER was the FIRST mutant model!

She was even one of MILLIE'S MODELS, and that ho was a model in like 1921!




Don't hate cuz all of those other x-grrrrls wanted to riff off Dazz's groove.

[Daithi]

Don't hate cuz all of those other x-grrrrls wanted to riff off Dazz's groove.

No...I'm respecting Dazzler originality! But still it's very doubtful that Rachel growing mullet was because Ahab programmed it into her. However it's on the lines of R'Chell...

[DDM]

Speaking of displacement in time, has Rachel ever met Franklin Richards in this time? It would be fascinating if Rachel did some bonding with young Franklin.

Yes, she met the mainstream Marvel Universe Franklin Richards in Uncanny X-Men Annual #14. It is a combination of Rachel's Phoenix powers mixing with Franklin's dream powers to give Rachel her heart's desire to have her Franklin Richards back alive. When Rachel restored Cyclops & Invisible Woman back to normal--telekinetically rewriting over Ahab's Hound DNA matrix--the adult Franklin vanished & the child Franklin awoke from his coma.
As a result, Rachel became Phoenix once more. Yet she could not rewrite her own Hound DNA. Hmmm....

[Daithi]

Yes, she met the mainstream Marvel Universe Franklin Richards in Uncanny X-Men Annual #14. It is a combination of Rachel's Phoenix powers mixing with Franklin's dream powers to give Rachel her heart's desire to have her Franklin Richards back alive.

Actually it was Franklin's desire to be come back to his heart's desire. He was using Rachel and Baby Franklin's power as you said though.

As a result, Rachel became Phoenix once more. Yet she could not rewrite her own Hound DNA. Hmmm....

Her DNA wasn't changed. She was basically tortured, branded and drugged into becoming a hound. What Ahab did was copy her genetic template after becoming a hound and apply it to others. So any hound that Ahab transformed after Rachel had Rachels dna explaining why they ended up with telepathy.

[DungeonmasterJim]

The one recent concept that Claremont vaguely explored with Rachel that I was really interested in was her stealth skills. As a tracker it made some sense to me rather and I thought it was pretty cool. I much preffered an addition like that than a Phoenix shard, or the telekinesis swords she used for like one issue or even rearranging atoms or whatever to make clothing. Hopefully someone explores that part of Rachel without screwing it up and making her a one woman world crusher.

DM Jim

[Daithi]

The one recent concept that Claremont vaguely explored with Rachel that I was really interested in was her stealth skills. As a tracker it made some sense to me rather and I thought it was pretty cool.

You mean the stealth skill that Emma showed her despite the fact that Rachel has done the trick before in an issue written by Claremont?

[ClanAskani]

Speaking of displacement in time, has Rachel ever met Franklin Richards in this time? It would be fascinating if Rachel did some bonding with young Franklin.

Rachel did see little Franklin in the Days of Future Present crossover, but little Franklin was unconscious through most of it since the Franklin of Earth-811 was using his powers to exist. Rachel never talked to little Franklin or did any bonding.

[ClanAskani]

You mean the stealth skill that Emma showed her despite the fact that Rachel has done the trick before in an issue written by Claremont?

I would have loved for Rachel to have told Emma she already knew how to do that rather than acting happy Emma taught her something new, but I suppose that would backfire Emma would have chastised for for not doing it herself then.

[DungeonmasterJim]

You mean the stealth skill that Emma showed her despite the fact that Rachel has done the trick before in an issue written by Claremont?

Actually, no. Sorry.

I was referring to when Ray would sneak out of the mansion to visit her/Kitty's shrink in Chicago despite constant surveillance by the sentinels.

DM Jim

[Daithi]

Actually, no. Sorry.

I was referring to when Ray would sneak out of the mansion to visit her/Kitty's shrink in Chicago despite constant surveillance by the sentinels.

DM Jim

Yeah that was pretty cool. I liked that it referenced her past without going overboard.

[ClanAskani]

Has everyone seen the shadow form variant of the Hasbro Marvel Girl figure?

http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.p...e=800&start=20

[DDM]

Actually, no. Sorry.

I was referring to when Ray would sneak out of the mansion to visit her/Kitty's shrink in Chicago despite constant surveillance by the sentinels.

DM Jim

I think Rachel did this trick as early shown in Uncanny X-Men #201: Rachel is in her grandparent's bedroom while they are sound asleep, yet she is speaking in a normal voice while she repairs the Shi'ar Holempathic Crystal she had previous broke when she became Phoenix in Uncanny X-Men #199. Rachel manifests the Phoenix Effect for the second time, glowing like a star lighting up the whole room with her energy.

[Daithi]

I think Rachel did this trick as early shown in Uncanny X-Men #201:

She did it in UXM #200. The X-Men appear in Paris after Asgard. There's a crowd and Rachel makes them think the X-Men are part of a new special effects film.

Later on in the same issue, the X-Men after being setup by Fenris, run through the streets and Rachel hides them all from the police.

So when Emma teaches Rachel pretty much the same trick well it's not a case of Claremont ignoring other writers. It's Claremont ignoring himself.

Funny that he remembered Rachels "I've falling in a nightclub and I can't get up because of all the voices" from 184 and used the exact same scene again in his last Uncanny run.

[Mormel]

Yes, she met the mainstream Marvel Universe Franklin Richards in Uncanny X-Men Annual #14.

Rachel did see little Franklin in the Days of Future Present crossover, but little Franklin was unconscious through most of it since the Franklin of Earth-811 was using his powers to exist. Rachel never talked to little Franklin or did any bonding.

Thank you DDM and ClanAskani.

Actually, no. Sorry.

I was referring to when Ray would sneak out of the mansion to visit her/Kitty's shrink in Chicago despite constant surveillance by the sentinels.

DM Jim

Beside the telepathic abilities of altering perceptions that have already been mentioned, I would think she also owes a lot of her stealth to her time as a hound. She must have had a lot of training so she could remain unseen while hot on the heels of other mutants. And not just through telepathy. Her costume was black, which probably made hiding in the shadows, or at nighttime, easier.

[jester1436]

Would it be a good idea for Rachel to abandon the names Marvel Girl and Phoenix and call herself Askani? Or would that be too confusing or silly?