Rachel Summers/Grey Appreciation

[Brian M.]

I like Rachel Grey/Summers

[Mormel]

Yeah I hope he turns out to be a traitor or a sleeper agent. Basically "infecting" Rachel with the Phoenix blade.

It would explain why Korvus was sent after Rachel in the first place. Why send a man with a Phoenix blade to a girl who has close ties to the Phoenix.

My speculation months ago was that there had to be more to Korvus and his deal with K'Tor for his freedom, since it seemed way to simple. Why would K'Tor think the Blade of the Phoenix could kill Rachel? I assumed there had to be more to it and the plan. Perhaps the Phoenix fragment was contaminated and would harm Rachel in some way and Korvus was mind-controlling Rachel.

Maybe that will happen in Emperor Vulcan, but it would make Rachel look rather foolish if she was deceived by Korvus and the Phoenix fragment.

This all sounds very probable. It wouldn't be the worst thing for Yost to use K'Tor just a little bit, after Brubaker completely forgot about him after the first four issues of 'Rise and Fall...' He is supposed to be pulling some strings, after all. And he must know more about this Phoenix Blade. It was apparently HIS family that hunted down and incarcerated Korvus's family.

DDM claimed that Rachel is more susceptible to mind-control because of what the people of the Hound program did to her. But even if this is so, it's not certain that writers will pick up on this. Other telepaths have been mind-controlled before, after all.

[Mormel]

I like Rachel Grey/Summers

That is appreciated, Brian. It would be appreciated even more if you explained why. :)

[Dagger]

You're saying Ahab went out of his way to make sure his hounds could grow no hairstyle other than mullets ... ?

Ahab must be the mastermind in what comes rolling out of trailer parks!

[creaky]

Like Askani's Flame, I am not a fan of this pair-up, but I am curious to know why you think this would be an interesting romance, Pro.

Can't answer for anyone else, of course, but personally, I like the two because I feel they can complete each other. Rachel has some issues to work through and she could use a rock in her life, a role that Kurt plays well and often. And regarding Kurt, I would prefer to see him with a woman who has an edge to her, who can bring out the life in him and some sparks to the relationship.

I wouldn't want it to be an immediate hook-up. More like a friendship that deepens into romance.

The whole "uncle" phase was overplayed a long time ago. The uncle-figure she had was way older than Kurt is. "Our" Kurt is simply her friend and fair game.

[DDM]

Ahab must be the mastermind in what comes rolling out of trailer parks!

Ahab's harpoons are keyed specifically to his target's DNA; therefore, affecting the DNA of his Hounds is not beyond his capacity.

[Brian M.]

That is appreciated, Brian. It would be appreciated even more if you explained why. :)

She's the daughter of Scott/Jean. That and take whatever everyone else said as reasons why they like her and add them to mine. But mostly b/c she's a Summers.

[kate-pryde]

Ahab's harpoons are keyed specifically to his target's DNA; therefore, affecting the DNA of his Hounds is not beyond his capacity.

Of all the things Ahab could manipulate Hounds' DNA to do, he would decide to give them mullets?

Maybe he has a demented sense of humor?

DDM claimed that Rachel is more susceptible to mind-control because of what the people of the Hound program did to her. But even if this is so, it's not certain that writers will pick up on this. Other telepaths have been mind-controlled before, after all.

While it does make sense that after all of her mental conditioning as a Hound and everything she's gone through that she is more suspectible to mind-control, it's getting a little overdone.

I'd hate to see it end up that after Rachel vouched for Korvus and saw into his mind, that she overlooked that he was sent to manipulate and use her, or that Korvus was some how powerful enough to
mind-control Rachel.

Can't answer for anyone else, of course, but personally, I like the two because I feel they can complete each other. Rachel has some issues to work through and she could use a rock in her life, a role that Kurt plays well and often. And regarding Kurt, I would prefer to see him with a woman who has an edge to her, who can bring out the life in him and some sparks to the relationship.

I wouldn't want it to be an immediate hook-up. More like a friendship that deepens into romance.

The whole "uncle" phase was overplayed a long time ago. The uncle-figure she had was way older than Kurt is. "Our" Kurt is simply her friend and fair game.

I think Kurt & Rachel have known each other for so long that a romance between them isn't going to happen. Rachel might not see Kurt as her uncle any more, but they've always had a big brother/little sister relationship.

[Daithi]

I'd hate to see it end up that after Rachel vouched for Korvus and saw into his mind, that she overlooked that he was sent to manipulate and use her, or that Korvus was some how powerful enough to
mind-control Rachel.

Yes but Korvus being a sleeper agent of therefore doesn't know about K'Tor's plans would help. It's the Phoenix Blade that doesn't make any sense and it would be easy for Shi'ar mumbo jump to corrupt the blade which in turn corrupts Rachel.

[Pro]

Can't answer for anyone else, of course, but personally, I like the two because I feel they can complete each other. Rachel has some issues to work through and she could use a rock in her life, a role that Kurt plays well and often. And regarding Kurt, I would prefer to see him with a woman who has an edge to her, who can bring out the life in him and some sparks to the relationship.

I wouldn't want it to be an immediate hook-up. More like a friendship that deepens into romance.

That pretty much sums it up.

they've always had a big brother/little sister relationship.

In my family we do not kiss passionately after a danger room fight :p.

[Mormel]

Can't answer for anyone else, of course, but personally, I like the two because I feel they can complete each other. Rachel has some issues to work through and she could use a rock in her life, a role that Kurt plays well and often. And regarding Kurt, I would prefer to see him with a woman who has an edge to her, who can bring out the life in him and some sparks to the relationship.

I wouldn't want it to be an immediate hook-up. More like a friendship that deepens into romance.

The whole "uncle" phase was overplayed a long time ago. The uncle-figure she had was way older than Kurt is. "Our" Kurt is simply her friend and fair game.

I'm feeling what you're thinking. Rachel and Kurt are close, so they already have a friendship behind them. Too often you read about two characters just jumping on each other after they've barely exchanged a glance.

While I feel Rachel is doing darn well enough when she's single, if they MUST pair her up with someone, I would like it to be someone of the original New Mutants generation. She's already displayed interesting interaction with most people of her age (noticeably Kitty), and I like the contrast between her intense past (or future) and the relatively 'carefree' (yet still intense) present for the teenagers/twens of Cannonball's generation. (Though 'X-Force' gave a lot of those characters their share of grief.)

Speaking of displacement in time, has Rachel ever met Franklin Richards in this time? It would be fascinating if Rachel did some bonding with young Franklin.

Yes but Korvus being a sleeper agent of therefore doesn't know about K'Tor's plans would help. It's the Phoenix Blade that doesn't make any sense and it would be easy for Shi'ar mumbo jump to corrupt the blade which in turn corrupts Rachel.

All this talk about corruption of Rachel makes me fear for a new step for her in the direction of Dark Phoenix. That's the last thing I hope will happen in Emperor Vulcan.

[Dagger]

Ahab's harpoons are keyed specifically to his target's DNA; therefore, affecting the DNA of his Hounds is not beyond his capacity.

It still doesn't explain why she had a mullet because he engineered her to be so. Why would it grow in the back but not in the front? It was a popular hair style back then, heck, even Byrne gave the Invisible Woman a mullet back then(barf! it looked real gross on her!!!) which is probably the reason why she kept it. Not some scheme from a guy who makes mutants into slaves.

[Daithi]

It still doesn't explain why she had a mullet because he engineered her to be so. Why would it grow in the back but not in the front? It was a popular hair style back then, heck, even Byrne gave the Invisible Woman a mullet back then(barf! it looked real gross on her!!!) which is probably the reason why she kept it. Not some scheme from a guy who makes mutants into slaves.

Yeah I agree here. It's Rachel's choice and given that she's not a great fashion/style person it appropriate. It's makes a nice change than having almost everyother X-woman list "model" as one of their occupations.

[jarrod]

While I feel Rachel is doing darn well enough when she's single, if they MUST pair her up with someone, I would like it to be someone of the original New Mutants generation. She's already displayed interesting interaction with most people of her age (noticeably Kitty), and I like the contrast between her intense past (or future) and the relatively 'carefree' (yet still intense) present for the teenagers/twens of Cannonball's generation. (Though 'X-Force' gave a lot of those characters their share of grief.).

Yes please! The missed opportunities with both Sam and James on Uncanny were totally aggrivating... I still think James could work tho.

[Mormel]

Yes please! The missed opportunities with both Sam and James on Uncanny were totally aggrivating... I still think James could work tho.

James is now running around with Mam'selle Hepzibah, Jarrod. ;)

Good interaction between characters has been slim in issues of Uncanny X-Men up until lately, I feel. I liked it when Sam held Rachel for a couple of frames after she had that headache in the Uncanny Annual last year, but that was just a little thing. Besides, Sam was given very little interaction with anyone during his fractured 'tenure' on Claremont's last Uncanny run.