Tracking the 52 Earths *SPOILERS*

**Duy** · 09-07-2007, 07:12 AM

Hey, what about the Son of Superman Universe, the Secret Society of Superheroes Universe, and the Secret Identity Universe? Wouldn't that be fun?

**Paul Newell** · 09-07-2007, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by hangmanjury

Hey, what about the Son of Superman Universe, the Secret Society of Superheroes Universe, and the Secret Identity Universe? Wouldn't that be fun?

I think they're a good bet. It's just hard to say. Who knows which ones just don't make the cut? :(

**Paul Newell** · 09-07-2007, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Fireface

I remember reading in an interview (I don't recall with who) that knowledge of a particular Earth's source material doesn't necessarily mean that you know very much about that Earth in it's present incarnation. Hence, it's possible that the two Jack the Rippers you mentioned have been consolidated into a singular being.

After all, while (according to your list) we apparently know what Earth the Victorian-era Wonder Woman lives on, you still have the one for the Victorian-era Batman listed as 'Mentioned but not yet shown.'

I remember what you're refering to and that was a comment about the new Earths 2, 4, 5 and 10. But I think one thing that'll negate that somewhat is that they appear to be repackaging Elseworlds stories as a series of trades under the title "Tales of the Multiverse". I have a feeling that might make a difference to some stories keeping the continuity shown in those trades.

**Duy** · 09-07-2007, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Paul Newell

I think they're a good bet. It's just hard to say. Who knows which ones just don't make the cut? :(

Offhand I am betting that Superman: True Brit does not make the cut.

Heeheehee.

**captain_unimpressive** · 09-07-2007, 02:18 PM

Someone mentioned that they disagreed with DKR being a world?
Well, I believe that Booster Gold is planning on visiting Carrie Kelley in one of the next few issues (remember the promo image?) and since it's not going to be New Earth's future...

Originally Posted by hangmanjury

Offhand I am betting that Superman: True Brit does not make the cut.

Heeheehee.

Aw.
But I was hoping for a BBC-Earth-2.

**Duy** · 09-07-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by captain_unimpressive

Someone mentioned that they disagreed with DKR being a world?
Well, I believe that Booster Gold is planning on visiting Carrie Kelley in one of the next few issues (remember the promo image?) and since it's not going to be New Earth's future...

Aw.
But I was hoping for a BBC-Earth-2.

Carrie Kelly, huh? Well I guess some mileage can be taken out of DKR.

Sure hope they don't touch Watchmen beyond Earth-4 though.

**Paul Newell** · 09-07-2007, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by hangmanjury

Carrie Kelly, huh? Well I guess some mileage can be taken out of DKR.

Sure hope they don't touch Watchmen beyond Earth-4 though.

You'll be glad to know that they can never add Watchmen into the DC multiverse due to the original agreement.

The deal was struck before trades became such big business and part of it was that, 12 months after DC no longer produced anything to do with Watchmen, then the rights would revert back to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

Unfortunately for them the trade has been printed continuosly for 20 years.

**Bo-Man** · 09-08-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Buried Alien

With any luck, the new Earth-1 will be a near clone of the old Pre-COIE Earth-One: a classic Silver/Bronze Age configuration mainstream DC Earth.

But I hope Earth-52 (New Earth) sticks around too.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Oh, how I would love that! Seeing characters such as The Flash/Barry Allen, Batgirl/ Barbara Gordon, The Atom/Ray Palmer,etc. would be great!

**Bo-Man** · 09-08-2007, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Buried Alien

Looking back historically, I have long believed that Dick Grayson's transition from Robin to Nightwing was the first evolutionary step away from the classic Silver/Bronze Age configuration of the DCU to the Modern Age DCU that we recognize today. Up until Dick became Nightwing, the DCU had been fairly static for years. Very few permanent, major changes occurred to the DCU characters and their circumstances. For the most part, things were predictable and unchanging, year in, decade out.

Dick's becoming Nightwing and Jason Todd's becoming Robin triggered the tidal wave of change. Within a year, CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS would kill the Multiverse, the Barry Allen Flash, the classic Supergirl, and Silver/Bronze Age DC continuity and history. The new Modern Age DCU would be built, one brick at a time, over the next twenty years.

If a new Earth-1 emerges, it should reflect the classic, unchanged Silver/Bronze Age DCU...meaning Dick Grayson as Robin, Barry Allen as Flash, the classic Supergirl, Barbara Gordon as Batgirl, etc. Meanwhile, on New Earth, the changes of the past quarter century can remain and continue.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I totally agree! Although seeing Dick in an updated Robin outfit would be rather nice. Kind of like they did Dick in BTAS. Seasons 1,2, and 3.

**Bo-Man** · 09-08-2007, 07:21 PM

You know we probably will not see this Earth again, but I would love to see from Infinite Crisis Earth-462 that had the Cathy Lee Crosby Wonder Woman and Debra Winger Wonder Girl fighting Per Degaton. I know that the Cathy Lee version was not the real WW, but her character being in a comic and being a different " Multiverse" version would be interesing to see and how they would approach it.

I'd also like to see the "Justice" universe be added, unless Earth 1 became the Silver Age/ Bronze Age with Captain Marvel added. Since the Marvel Family is basically Earth-5, and a original Silver Age/ Bronze Age might be considered seperate.

**David Atkins** · 09-09-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Paul Newell

I remember what you're refering to and that was a comment about the new Earths 2, 4, 5 and 10. But I think one thing that'll negate that somewhat is that they appear to be repackaging Elseworlds stories as a series of trades under the title "Tales of the Multiverse". I have a feeling that might make a difference to some stories keeping the continuity shown in those trades.

You could be right. But the 'Tales of the Multiverse' trades could also turn out to be little more than a somewhat confusing (for some fans) marketing technique.

Personally, I'm cool with it either way.

**Nessor Sille** · 09-10-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Paul Newell

Not really, but Superboy's Legion is by the same creative team and some of the characters from it appeared in Another Nail, so it's considered by many to be happening in the same universe.

How do they reconcile that baby Kal-El wasn't discovered until 1,000 years later (by R.J. Brande himself) in Superboy's Legion? That wouldn't jibe with the Nail books, where he did land as scheduled, he was just found by an Amish couple instead of the Kents.

**Paul Newell** · 09-10-2007, 05:29 PM

Heh. By copping to the fact that I screwed up. Serves me right for operating on memory alone. :)

**Nessor Sille** · 09-10-2007, 05:53 PM

I would like to see the Superboy's Legion Earth again, either as one of the 52...or in the "Megaverse" we'll possibly see after Final Crisis.

I'd also like to see the Supergirl/Batgirl World's Finest Earth.

**Duy** · 09-10-2007, 06:58 PM

How about a universe where Superman is the GL of Krypton, Batman is the GL of Earth, Diana is in her Emma Peel version, Flash is Walter West, and... uh...

Well, I'm sure something would be done with Hal Jordan.

So, Earth-22. The Kingdom Come Earth. Did history happen on that Earth so that the events of Kingdom Come already happened, and superheroes just debuted there earlier than they did on New Earth, or is Kingdom Come still in their future? Similar questions could be asked on any earth based on an alternate future or past.