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    IE: good plot device, but it woulda been nice to see a real live lesbian, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Smooth View Post
    IE: good plot device, but it woulda been nice to see a real live lesbian, too.
    Moore could have been conventional and had say, a Labour party supporter or a black man in the role but he choose the character of a young lesbian because at that time, it was something that related to his personal life. Valerie is better written in a few pages than some characters have been in their entire histories.
    Also remember that the Valerie chapter originally appeared in Warrior when V For Vendetta only had 6/7 pages an issue. The reason it appears episodic is because it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Smooth View Post
    IE: good plot device, but it woulda been nice to see a real live lesbian, too.
    Don't feed me a straight line like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul McEnery View Post
    Don't feed me a straight line like that.
    You know you want to.

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    Default Homosexuality in Comics - Part IV

    Homosexuality in Comics - Part IV

    In this final part, participants discuss the "Gay Retcon" as well as their favorite GLBT characters and the state of union of homosexuality in comics.

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/ne...m.cgi?id=11201

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Smooth View Post
    IE: good plot device, but it woulda been nice to see a real live lesbian, too.
    Exactly. If you've ever read the Celluloid Closet (which is about movies, but it certainly applies to literature and comics too), it basically shows examples from the beginning of film where queers in movies are basically accepted if they're not directly interactive and/or don't make it through to the end. They have to be tragic and distant just so the public will allow them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy khouri View Post
    Homosexuality in Comics - Part IV

    In this final part, participants discuss the "Gay Retcon" as well as their favorite GLBT characters and the state of union of homosexuality in comics.

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/ne...m.cgi?id=11201
    The latitude between Rucka and Grayson reeks of sexism to me. One is stopped before it even gets out of the gate, the other has full carte blanche.

    Not relevant at all to the issue at hand, but I find it interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy khouri View Post
    Homosexuality in Comics - Part IV

    In this final part, participants discuss the "Gay Retcon" as well as their favorite GLBT characters and the state of union of homosexuality in comics.

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/ne...m.cgi?id=11201
    State of what union? This is a pretty ridiculous misapplication of a specific phrase. Plus, it's unnecessary; "state of homosexuality in comics" says exactly the same thing, with fewer words.
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    The constant ass kissing of Alan Moore in comics is grating, no matter what his achievements. I imagine his fans like Bjork or Radiohead fans sitting in a room, finishing each others sentences and all nodding in agreement at everything he does and every opinion they have. Dull and annoying drones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    The constant ass kissing of Alan Moore in comics is grating, no matter what his achievements. I imagine his fans like Bjork or Radiohead fans sitting in a room, finishing each others sentences and all nodding in agreement at everything he does and every opinion they have. Dull and annoying drones.
    Why Bjork or Radiohead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
    Why Bjork or Radiohead?
    Cause he doesn't understand them either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    The constant ass kissing of Alan Moore in comics is grating, no matter what his achievements. I imagine his fans like Bjork or Radiohead fans sitting in a room, finishing each others sentences and all nodding in agreement at everything he does and every opinion they have. Dull and annoying drones.
    I'm sure you find the idea of people nodding in agreement with each other horrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Whitmore View Post
    Cause he doesn't understand them either.


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    Sooo....are we EVER gonna see that Batwoman series? And I am still waiting for Hulking and (*sigh*) Wiccan to make out, hold hands, SOMETHING!!!
    Thus do I write the first chapter of my new scripture. And the first verse is "Let it all burn."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
    Why Bjork or Radiohead?
    Very intese people are fans of Bjork, Radiohead, and Tori Amos, even.
    They've done some amazing things, sure, but to actively seek to apply their acheivements across the board as being the basis of any progress and give them unbelieveable amounts of importance seem to be the norm when speaking in terms of their fans.

    As per the article:

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