-=The All-Purpose METAL Thread=-

[TheLazy]

TheLazy is right about Mastodon being the new face of metal. They are different from Metallica in many ways, but they remind me of Metallica's passion and innovation during the 1980s.

Glad to see these guys aren't being totally shun by the world.;)

Don't care much for Mastodon or any other bands with cookie-monster vocals...which is why I hated the "New wave of American Metal" bands like Trivium till they ditched the demon growling and started putting a little melody in the vocals...

Pantera is the only metal band in history that has been able to, or will ever be able to pull off flat out screaming through an entire song and get away with it...for everyone else (with a few exceptions [Lamb of God, Chimaira]) it really just comes off seeming like they can't sing, so instead they scream...

My all-time top 5:
Metallica
Megadeth
Pantera (only "scream" band that makes my list)
Black Sabbath
Gov't Mule

Cookie monster vocals? please. Mastodon are about as far away from metalcore as you could get in todays metal markets. I personally think they've got a wailing sound, not quite falsetto but definately not grunting.

Also, if slay taught the world anything its that kick ass music with shit ass vocals still equals kick ass song.;)

Back to 'tallica.

Did anyone else bring a drink through their nostrles when they heard about james pouring vodka on his frosties whilst hunting in siberia?:D

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[leonaozaki]

Ditto. I found it funny that most of the people screaming selll out were no older than 10 when Puppets came out:D

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I got into Metallica in the dim dead of time of 1987 and Master of Puppets, and I remember when people were screaming "sell-out" at them for making a video (the horror!) for "One." Of course, that was nothing compared to the outrage that the Black album inspired. I was standing in a record store in L.A. when I overheard the clerk saying how much he'd hated the Black album and how he was going to write them a letter complaining! Ha ha ha.

rob

[Brad Barton]

I got into Metallica in the dim dead of time of 1987 and Master of Puppets, and I remember when people were screaming "sell-out" at them for making a video (the horror!) for "One." Of course, that was nothing compared to the outrage that the Black album inspired. I was standing in a record store in L.A. when I overheard the clerk saying how much he'd hated the Black album and how he was going to write them a letter complaining! Ha ha ha.

rob

Hey, you know what....maybe they got that letter, and that single record shop clerk's bitching is responsible for the Load albums....the bastard.

Actually, I like the Loads too. When I ask almost anyone if they like Metallica or not, the answer is always, always "Yeah, but just their old stuff"...and I'm sitting here thinking "You asshole, you and I both know the only song you know of theirs is Enter Sandman....and lemme tell you something buddy, Enter Sandman ain't "old"

So thats the new stock answer for people who don't know much about Metallica when asked if they like them "yeah, but just the old stuff"

If someone ever tells you that, put them on the spot and say "Oh yeah? Which songs?...I guarantee you they'll say something like "uuhhmm..ahh...The Sandman, I like that one....and for whom the bells toll are my favorites, but I like Sad Patrol too..."

[Man In Black]

Metallica were a great band at one time...now they're a bunch of rich, whiney old men...better to look at the times they were great than the Nostalgia act they've become.

[stealthwise]

I kinda agree with beetheb about the new metal bands, they have a good understanding of musicianship and energy, but don't work for me much at all. I do like some Devildriver and Machine Head (who have been around for years) though.

[stealthwise]

Metallica were a great band at one time...now they're a bunch of rich, whiney old men...better to look at the times they were great than the Nostalgia act they've become.

Have you actually seen them live? They can still rock it. Hard.

[Brad Barton]

Have you actually seen them live? They can still rock it. Hard.

Hell yes they can, they're actually playing the first date of the Summer tour in Europe on wednsday....and I'd bet my ass they're gonna unveil a new song first night out....

Originally Posted by Man In Black
Metallica were a great band at one time...now they're a bunch of rich, whiney old men....

Then why waste your time here talking about them?

[TheLazy]

Hell yes they can, they're actually playing the first date of the Summer tour in Europe on wednsday....and I'd bet my ass they're gonna unveil a new song first night out....

Guess who's going to Wembley:evilsmile

'tallica w/ support from mastodon, the only way it could get any better is if Killswitch Engage showed up.

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[jesse_custer]

Mastodon doesn't have cookie-cutter monster vocals. In fact, on the new album Blood Mountain, they utilize several different types of vocals.

[Brad Barton]

Guess who's going to Wembley:evilsmile

'tallica w/ support from mastodon, the only way it could get any better is if Killswitch Engage showed up.

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Man, those Wembley tickets sold out in like 2 or 3 hours, you must've been on the ticketmaster site with your credit card at the ready when they went on sale :D

I'm definitely going to be seeing them when they tour the U.S. next year (it was supposed to be this year :evilangry ) I've seen them twice already but my wife wants to see 'em, and I'm making her get up and rock, no staying in the seat Bull$hit.....anyway, rock ass at Wembley man, bring us back some pics or something!

[Man In Black]

Mastodon doesn't have cookie-cutter monster vocals. In fact, on the new album Blood Mountain, they utilize several different types of vocals.

Mastodon are alright, but I wouldnt call them "the new face of metal"...if I called anyone that it would be Trivium or Machinehead.

[Brad Barton]

Mastodon are alright, but I wouldnt call them "the new face of metal"...if I called anyone that it would be Trivium or Machinehead.

Trivium are great....heavily influenced by Metallica and Megadeth, I thought the Crusade was awesome, even though they try too hard on a few songs to make them radio-friendly...I usually just skip past those and enjoy the rest of the album.

[jesse_custer]

Trivium is too generic for my tastes and seem to compromise too much. Mastodon comes out on their first major label record and records insanely progressive three-minute growl and guitar fests, complete with drumming that almost spirals out of control. It's almost as if they want to lose their record deal. That's metal.

[TheLazy]

Trivium is too generic for my tastes and seem to compromise too much. Mastodon comes out on their first major label record and records insanely progressive three-minute growl and guitar fests, complete with drumming that almost spirals out of control. It's almost as if they want to lose their record deal. That's metal.

Yeah, trivium are good but they follow the 'next tallica' tag too much. Mastodon got a lot of flak from fans about selling out with the eclectic styles, so what do they do, sell out some more. Now you can't seriously tell me that doesn't sound like Metallica.:D

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[Rattlehead]

What are your thoughts on the new album?
From what I've heard of it, not very much. There's certainly nothing there that justifies yet another 5 year layover.

Did you like their last album (St. Anger)?
No, a 1,000 times no. Every song was 3-4 minutes too long, the riffs were terribly boring, James wailed horribly off-key for most of it, Bob Rock can't play Bass, and the Drums have been discussed to death. For band of their caliber and talent, it was inexcusable garbage.

What's your favorite Metallica song?
Eithier Motorbreath or Phantom Lord. Any song from Kill Em All would qualify really.

Do you subscribe to the school of "Metallica sold out"?
They are clearly more worried about money than music these days. I hesitated to use the sell-out word with them, but Some Kind of Monster confirmed my doubts about the bands integrity.

Do you prefer new or old Metallica?
I'm a Thrash Metal head, so Old naturally. Although several of their Thrash Metal peers were outclassing them in terms of musicianship back in the 80's. Any Overkill album from the same era blows away anything Metallica was doing.

Which bassist was best, Cliff, Jason or Rob?
Cliff was something special, but Jason did some awesome Basswork with Voivod. It's a shame he didn't get to showcase his talent in Metallica. Rob hasn't officially recorded anything with them yet. I'll go with Cliff since not many Bassists could have pulled off Anesthesia.