-=The All-Purpose METAL Thread=-

[Brad Barton]

Damn straight we'll leave them separate.

This is a discussion thread. Mine is a news reporting thread.

My thoughts exactly...

I really dig Cradle Of Filth, Theatre Of Tragedy, Dimmu Borgir and Opeth.

Anyone else with me on any of those bands?

I've heard a few Cradle songs that I liked, but definitely not super versed in them......as for the rest, no experience whatsoever, though a band in that vein tha I always dug was Meshuggah.

Anyone here ever heard of a band called "Dismember"? If you're into SWedish Death Metal, do yourself a favor, give these guys a listen. THE most underrated band to emerge from the entire movement.

[Deathstroke]

I'll get back to the playlist question later, but from the first seven Maiden albums I would probably pick Seventh Son of a Seventh Son as my favorite, followed by Piece of Mind and The Number of the Beast.

I would also recommend Live after Death because it has an awful lot of great Maiden songs in one place and you get to hear Bruce Dickinson sing on Paul Di'anno songs.

rob

Piece of Mind and Powerslave are really good, but I think I'd have to go with (in no particular favorite order)

Somewhere In Time, The Number Of The Beast, Live After Death, Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son, Brave New World, and A Matter Of Life And Death.

I am NOT a fan of the vocal work from Paul Di'Anno so I normally stay away from the first two Maiden discs, but they may be for you.

The two Maiden albums with Blaze Bayley on vocals (The X Factor and Virtual XI) are overall disappointing. (The Clansman, Educated Fool, and Futureal are great tracks in the Maiden canon but they all come from Virtual XI)

Brave New World, Dance Of Death and A Matter Of Life And Death are from Bruce Dickinson's second go round as vocalist. The first and third are great. Dance of Death has a few good songs, but was not universally loved by the Maiden fans.

More to come when I get home tonight.

[Arrjay]

My thoughts exactly...

I've heard a few Cradle songs that I liked, but definitely not super versed in them......as for the rest, no experience whatsoever, though a band in that vein tha I always dug was Meshuggah.

Anyone here ever heard of a band called "Dismember"? If you're into SWedish Death Metal, do yourself a favor, give these guys a listen. THE most underrated band to emerge from the entire movement.

Ooh!

Dismember are FIERCE! Glad to see you dig them.

And Meshuggah are freakin' salubrious though I haven't listened to them in a while.

[jesse_custer]

Wow we have drastically different opinons about Train of Thought and Octavarium. I thought both were excellent. I have yet to hear Systematic Chaos though.

My Review of Dream Theater's Octavarium

Have you listened to any of their other stuff?

Don't get me wrong, Train of Thought had some good songs, particularly "This Dying Soul" and "Stream of Consciousness." However, "As I Am" sounded like the musicians were asleep compared to the rest of their work, and "Endless Sacrifice" rips off Metallica's "Sanitarium" and Disturbed's throw-a-harmonic-in-the-middle-of-a-riff-for-no-good-reason too much. They also sounded almost like nu-metal on a few of the songs, which is totally unacceptable.

Octavarium rips off a lot of bad music. You should be able to find some information on the Web about this somewhere. It's almost as if Dream Theater just turned their backs to what they've always believed was musically good. I mean, they've always been derivative to a certain extent, but in the past they always ripped great musicians and spruced up the material in interesting ways. Like when they copy Frank Zappa on "Beyond This Life," the guitar/keyboard solo provides a bright contrast to the general sadness of the song.

[Brad Barton]

Yes, my brother got me into Dismember a few years ago, and i think they're the onyl swedish metal I can sit and listen to and get casual enjoyment out of.....the rest I have to listen pretty hard to find stuff I like.

And who here's into Deicide?

[PanzerMega]

I really dig Cradle Of Filth, Theatre Of Tragedy, Dimmu Borgir and Opeth.

Anyone else with me on any of those bands?

Huge Opeth fan, here.

Still Life is one of my favorite albums ever.

[Man In Black]

Yes, my brother got me into Dismember a few years ago, and i think they're the onyl swedish metal I can sit and listen to and get casual enjoyment out of.....the rest I have to listen pretty hard to find stuff I like.

And who here's into Deicide?

I saw deicide live at a club in 1999....I swear, those guys are the absolute tightest live Metal band ive ever seen....their set was flawless, and glen bentons voice never got tired or cracky as the death metal growlers voices tend to do.

My fav. Deicide songs are Once upon the Cross, Blame it on god, Insineratehymn, Father Bakers, Serpents of the light, dead and dreaming...basically anything from the serpents of the light album was pretty much killer

[TheLazy]

As I said earlier, I'd call trivium or MachineHead the new face of metal before mastodon

imo, the new face of metal has to be somewhat marketable to a mass audience....and Mastodon just plain isnt

I'm sure people would have said the exact same thing about some punk/metal hybrid band from the bay area back in '83. Machine Head had there chance and got their ass's kicked by Pantera and Korn, Agree about trivium though, them or mastodon are probably going be the next big thing, I think mastodon deserve it more but that's my opinion personally.

I really dig Cradle Of Filth, Theatre Of Tragedy, Dimmu Borgir and Opeth.
Anyone else with me on any of those bands?

Opeth rock all kinds of awesome, other than that I dont really dig the satanism thing

Anyone like Dream Theater? They have a new album out, but I'm reticent about buying it since Octavarium was their worst and Train of Thought had more than a few problems. Hopefully, the record will hearken back to stuff like Images and Words, Awake, Scenes from a Memory, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

I like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, especially Glass prison. I havent heard the new record yet, but I'm kind of weary if they go with 10+ minute songs, after the mess that Machine head fell into, I think Mastodon and Isis have managed to get good progressive songs into 5 minutes, and the 10+ minute bands look lazy by comparison.

And Meshuggah are freakin' salubrious though I haven't listened to them in a while.

"DISCIPLES, COME JOIN WITH ME TO SAVE A FAILED HUMANITY. FOLLOW THE GOD OF CYANIDE INTO THE NEW ETERNITY.":evilsmile

Meshuggah are amazing. I stumbled upon them in the metallica biography and have been hooked since. Something that heavy shouldnt sound that good, this is how death metal should be done, no hexagrams and daemons and shit, pure fucking dystopian future (breed machine;) :D )

[HectorP]

Anyone here is into Strapping Young Lad? It's one of the few bands (including Metallica) that made me want to buy all of their catalogue after listening to the City album. And it's the only band I can listen to REALLY loud, for some reason.

[DWEarhart]

Love that band. Unfortunately, Devin's folded his cards for a while, but not for good. But seeing as how he's been involved in some project, whether SYL, solo, or producing, along with touring for ten years straight, he's due some downtime. His solo albums are insane as well. The whole SYL group is on his Physicist record.

SYL is sick. I've had the pleasure of seeing them live, and they are as tight on stage as they are on the album.

Gene Hoglan's new project, Pitch Black Forecast, should be out by the end of the year.

[Brad Barton]

Considering we're talking Metal on a Comic book forum, it's surprising no one's brought up White Zombie yet.

And Zomb' fans hereabout?

[HectorP]

Mmm... for Comics and Metal, wouldn't Iced Earth be a better parallel? That mascot thing they have for their last album looks like a comics badass, with the staff and the glowing eyes.

[Brad Barton]

Mmm... for Comics and Metal, wouldn't Iced Earth be a better parallel? That mascot thing they have for their last album looks like a comics badass, with the staff and the glowing eyes.

I dunno, with White Zombie it's more how campy their songs are...they're almost like a comic-book in music form.
Iced earth don't really sound like a comic book for the ears, and I don't necessarily think comic art on their albums makes them unique in that way. Korn, Entombed,Thin Lizzy and numerous other bands have had comic art on their album covers too...

[Deathstroke]

Have you listened to any of their other stuff?

Don't get me wrong, Train of Thought had some good songs, particularly "This Dying Soul" and "Stream of Consciousness." However, "As I Am" sounded like the musicians were asleep compared to the rest of their work, and "Endless Sacrifice" rips off Metallica's "Sanitarium" and Disturbed's throw-a-harmonic-in-the-middle-of-a-riff-for-no-good-reason too much. They also sounded almost like nu-metal on a few of the songs, which is totally unacceptable.

Octavarium rips off a lot of bad music. You should be able to find some information on the Web about this somewhere. It's almost as if Dream Theater just turned their backs to what they've always believed was musically good. I mean, they've always been derivative to a certain extent, but in the past they always ripped great musicians and spruced up the material in interesting ways. Like when they copy Frank Zappa on "Beyond This Life," the guitar/keyboard solo provides a bright contrast to the general sadness of the song.

I have Images and Words and heard Awake and Scenes....

Love the first, like most of the second, and hated the third. Oh, I didn't care for A Change of Seasons either.

Still loved TOT and Octavarium.

[Deathstroke]

I dunno, with White Zombie it's more how campy their songs are...they're almost like a comic-book in music form.
Iced earth don't really sound like a comic book for the ears, and I don't necessarily think comic art on their albums makes them unique in that way. Korn, Entombed,Thin Lizzy and numerous other bands have had comic art on their album covers too...

However, Iced Earth's The Dark Saga is Spawn set to music.