10 Reasons Why You Should Love Kelly & Seagle's X-Men run

[Mikl C]

[Mikl C]

[Dagger]

I already did.

<3<3<3 Have my babies!!~!<3<3<3

[Dagger]

I love everything about this story, and it even made me LOVE Marrow!

[Flameworthy]

Best part about the whole thing is the Angel/Marrow issue! B-E-YOU-TIFUL Pacheco art, wonderful dialogue by Kelly, and I also loved Seagle's run. The Alpha Flight crossover, the engourgeous art by Bachalo, the return of the AMAZING Phoenix costume! Lol, the chip scene, priceless:p!

I agree! That was a very good issue, and I thought it was cute how Marrow carried around one of Warren's old metal fletchettes.

[Syzygy]

I must confess, I don't understand why Marrow has so many fans.

As I recall, when she was first introduced, she and her compatriot Hemingway killed dozens of innocent human civilians in a huge nightclub massacre. Am I remembering incorrectly?

I gather it's the whole "ugly duckling" idea that appeals.

Nobody who likes Marrow is at all disturbed by the famous nightclub slaughter?

[Dagger]

I must confess, I don't understand why Marrow has so many fans.

As I recall, when she was first introduced, she and her compatriot Hemingway killed dozens of innocent human civilians in a huge nightclub massacre. Am I remembering incorrectly?

I gather it's the whole "ugly duckling" idea that appeals.

Nobody who likes Marrow is at all disturbed by the famous nightclub slaughter?

Who HASN'T wanted to slaughter the pretty people?:p

[Syzygy]

Who HASN'T wanted to slaughter the pretty people?:p

All right, that tells me why the character is popular.

Guess you've answered my little question there....

[rwsmith]

The Marrow and Wolverine fight was brutal.

Definitely! And probably my favorite moment of the Kelly/Seagle run.

[Dagger]

All right, that tells me why the character is popular.

Guess you've answered my little question there....

It was the over-all fleshing out of the character under Kelly that made me like Marrow. The fact that underneath all the anger and ugliness there was a girl who really wanted to be accepted and liked. Can't you relate to that? Have you ever felt like an outsider amongst outsiders? That's what Kelly emphasized in his handling of Marrow, and that's what attracted me to her. That, and her love of Angel.

[Syzygy]

It was the over-all fleshing out of the character under Kelly that made me like Marrow. The fact that underneath all the anger and ugliness there was a girl who really wanted to be accepted and liked. Can't you relate to that? Have you ever felt like an outsider amongst outsiders? That's what Kelly emphasized in his handling of Marrow, and that's what attracted me to her. That, and her love of Angel.

You like the character, okay. Something about the way K&S used her touched you. If that's the case, nobody can tell you what you found there is invalid.

I can only share with you my own personal reaction. My feelings were that all those themes could have been handled with a character who wasn't a spree killer. I mean, she murdered dozens of innocent human civilians. Why? Because fate gave them better lives than her? Isn't that a classic villain motivation?

So when K&S introduced these themes with Marrow, I wasn't sympathetic. Not because I'm a handome hunk who regularly does the nightclub scene, but because, as nerdy as I am, I'd never kill dozens of people for the "crime" of being richer, prettier, and happier than myself.

So, Marrow kind of doesn't work for me. What might work, however, is to kind of blot out everything before K&S's writing her, and regard their Marrow as a new character wholly different from the Gene Nation spree killer.

Heck, maybe she's got an evil twin sister running around....

[Faded]

I LOVE it Daggz and Mikl!!! Good call! One odd thing I loved about that issue is that even hotties like Warren Worthington III look like dogs when their hair is drenched in sewer water.

It was the over-all fleshing out of the character under Kelly that made me like Marrow. The fact that underneath all the anger and ugliness there was a girl who really wanted to be accepted and liked. Can't you relate to that? Have you ever felt like an outsider amongst outsiders? That's what Kelly emphasized in his handling of Marrow, and that's what attracted me to her. That, and her love of Angel.

Beautifully put. I really don't have any logic for her appearances before O:ZT, but to be truthful Kelly's (and initially Lobdell's) characterization of her afterwards is predominate in my memory and in my heart.

I think like Sabretooth she is to be feared but also like Emma Frost she is to be understood as well.

Awfully zen of me, ain't it? Just don't ask me WTF I said.

[Chiasm]

Absolutely hated both their runs at the time. Haven't read it since and feel no desire to do so after briefly looking at the "highlights" in this thread.

[Mikl C]

You like the character, okay. Something about the way K&S used her touched you. If that's the case, nobody can tell you what you found there is invalid.

I can only share with you my own personal reaction. My feelings were that all those themes could have been handled with a character who wasn't a spree killer. I mean, she murdered dozens of innocent human civilians. Why? Because fate gave them better lives than her? Isn't that a classic villain motivation?

So when K&S introduced these themes with Marrow, I wasn't sympathetic. Not because I'm a handome hunk who regularly does the nightclub scene, but because, as nerdy as I am, I'd never kill dozens of people for the "crime" of being richer, prettier, and happier than myself.

So, Marrow kind of doesn't work for me. What might work, however, is to kind of blot out everything before K&S's writing her, and regard their Marrow as a new character wholly different from the Gene Nation spree killer.

Heck, maybe she's got an evil twin sister running around....

Having not witnessed most if not all of your family, friends and aquaintainces being brutally slaughtered before your eyes when you were, say 6? Then raised in a dimension where it was literally, kill to survive. You don't kill? You don't progress up the Hill, you die screaming as someone makes their way over you. Being brought up with the mantra that humans were responsible for the absolute suffering you and your people endured- I'd say you can't relate ;)

I think I'd become a terrorist after that.

Besides, you can't understand why someone would like a character who's trying redemption? How? That's one of the most fascinating and endearing character traits, especially when they sometimes slip up and go off the rails.

Marrow 4evz.

[jarrod]

Just to throw out the hott lineups K&S were working towards...

Segale's X-Majors
-Cyclops (leader)
-Phoenix (soon to become preggers with Rachel)
-Nightcrawler
-Wolverine
-Storm
-Colossus
-Rogue

Kelly's X-Babies
-Beast (mentor)
-Iceman
-Shadowcat (and Lockheed?)
-Cannonball
-Marrow
-Cece
-Maggot


...oh, what could've been! :(