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    Default Can the marriage be broken?

    Ok before I start this long post, I just like to say, I'm a huge fan of the marriage and always liked the character that is Mary Jane, so this post might be a little biased. This post is not a debate of whether Spider-Man should be married or not, it is about how stupid is the notion that at this point of time, the marriage can be broken.


    So how do you break a marriage? Well there are 3 ways:

    Divorce
    So when do people get divorced? It could be either one side really hurt the other, if by cheating or neglect or an act of violence. It can be a traumatic experience that cause the 2 people involved to drift apart. Or it can be just that the love is gone. The Spider-Marriage had a lot of traumatic experiences, they suffered the revelation that Peter is a clone (Which caused an act of violence, worst issue ever), they lost a baby, one side thought the other was dead, and now the unmasking and the fugitives status. Yet they stuck together threw all of this, and now you actually telling me they will ever get a divorce? I call bullsh*t. Peter will never leave MJ cause she the thing that keeps him going, and she will never leave him she knows he will always be there for her when she needs him. Any story that ends up in a divorce, let alone a story that last 4 issues (IE: 'One More Day'), is a load of bull, and will not happen. Next.

    Death
    This seems like an easy solution, you don't like the marriage? Kill off the wife! Yes this wife has been part of the Spider-Man books for 40 years, has become a pretty strong character, and the last time you tried to kill her the uproar wasn't pleasant. Lets face it, Mary Jane has become a character you can't kill, she became the 2nd most important character in the Spider-Man world. She feature heavily in any of the the universes (616, Ultimate, MC-2), she been a pivot character in all 3 of the Spider-Man movies, there is a Spider-Man cartoon coming up where she will be heavily involved, hell she even have her own book. After Spidey himself, she is most untouchable character in the books, it ain't gonna happen.

    Major Retcon
    Ah the most sexy "solution", whether its a mind wipe, a dream or even the revelation that the minister who wed them 20 years ago (Real time) was actually the Chameleon. There are a lot of ways to retcon the marriage, but does Marvel want to go that way? Marvel did one major retcon to Spider-Man in his 45 years long history, it was called the Clone Saga, and it was the biggest piece of sh*t they ever came up with. And even that retcon is not really a retcon, because they never erased an event that happen in a Spider-Man book. Even the infamous Clone Saga wasn't erased, they just never refer to it, it still happened. Ben Reilly and Baby May existed, just nobody talks about it anymore. I find it hard to believe that Marvel will actually erase 20 years of continuity, do the end actually justify the means?


    It will take a genius to pull off an end to the Spider-Marriage, I personally can't see it happening. But in a world that Spider-Man is actually a being created by totems, who died and reborn, had his greatest enemy impregnate his first true love and recently revealed his identity to the world and endangering the life of his loved ones, anything can happen.

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    I've thought about this. Kill Spider-man. Have him in a massive explosion or something. They find his costume. She mourns. Skip forward 2 years in the books. Infact have the whole universe jump forward two years after a major event. Spidey returns having been a prisoner of someone quite evil. Unfortunatly Mary Jane got over him, moved on. Single Spidey. Mary Jane hasn't really done anything bad so she can't be a tramp or ...easy :p

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    Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to go with option "C" if they go with any option at all.

    And it'll suck if they do.

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    I don't think Marvel will dare do a retcon, the sensational spider-man annual show why Mary Jane would never ever divorce Peter, and I think Quesada himself has stated that they really don't want Peter to become a widower, though I can't remember the exact reason. In other words, the marriage is definitely not going away, which is good.:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karthak View Post
    I don't think Marvel will dare do a retcon, the sensational spider-man annual show why Mary Jane would never ever divorce Peter, and I think Quesada himself has stated that they really don't want Peter to become a widower, though I can't remember the exact reason. In other words, the marriage is definitely not going away, which is good.:)
    So, that means you haven't read anything related to the "One More Day" storyline.

    Anyway, seems that Marvel is going with "D": spoilers:
    Either Loki or Strange will cast a spell that will make most people forget the marriage ever happened. Which is somewhat like "C", but not quite
    end of spoilers
    That's right! Al Gore invented the internet, let's all go kick his ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    So, that means you haven't read anything related to the "One More Day" storyline.
    Oh sh##t. What do the solicits say?

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    If Peter felt it was in MJ's best interest and MJ felt it was in Peters best interest then they might get divorced. MJ is the weak link in Spiderman's new fugitive life. She'll slow him down if he has to run and the authorities could use her to track him if they find her and she knows it. This lifestyle puts MJ in constant danger from both sides of the law and forces her to leave her career behind. This isn't fair to MJ and Peter knows it.

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    I'd like them to go with option A, for reasons such as mary jane hooking up with some randy at a club and spiderman swining around the city and seeing MJ mackkkin some random guy outside coz shes so piss drunk.
    lol i dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyzmarca View Post
    If Peter felt it was in MJ's best interest and MJ felt it was in Peters best interest then they might get divorced. MJ is the weak link in Spiderman's new fugitive life. She'll slow him down if he has to run and the authorities could use her to track him if they find her and she knows it. This lifestyle puts MJ in constant danger from both sides of the law and forces her to leave her career behind. This isn't fair to MJ and Peter knows it.
    Read the Sensational Spider-man Annual where this exact topic is brought up and handled quite beautifully.

    As for ending te marriage. The'll probably go for a magic retcon, if anyhing. To Marvel that wouldbe a simple way for them not be together anymore and they might be able to make Peter younger at he same time. With magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asloveislost View Post
    I'd like them to go with option A, for reasons such as mary jane hooking up with some randy at a club and spiderman swining around the city and seeing MJ mackkkin some random guy outside coz shes so piss drunk.
    lol i dunno.
    In short, you want MJ to act completely out of character and Peter to throw a hissy fit about it.

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    I don't think Spider-Man and Mary Jane ARE married anymore.

    Spider-Man died in The Other. He flatlined. He was declared dead.

    So unless Peter and MJ have renewed their vows since then, technically the "until death do us part" escape clause has already come to pass.

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    I'd like them to go with option A, for reasons such as mary jane hooking up with some randy at a club and spiderman swining around the city and seeing MJ mackkkin some random guy outside coz shes so piss drunk.
    lol i dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Archive View Post
    I don't think Spider-Man and Mary Jane ARE married anymore.

    Spider-Man died in The Other. He flatlined. He was declared dead.

    So unless Peter and MJ have renewed their vows since then, technically the "until death do us part" escape clause has already come to pass.
    But there was no death certificate, also remember MJ 'died' as well, yet they are still married.

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    the marraige should not end. peter has developed as a character and is now married. people need to get over it. a young, mostly single peter parker can be read in the 18 issues of ultimate they put out a year.

    as i've said before peter always came across as a guy who would rather be married than not, he was never confident around women and the amount of "peter is late for a date" stories would be rubbbish.

    not only that, but mj is a part of the spider man world and mythos now and personallly just because joeq doesn't want them married soesn't want them together doesn't mean we, the fans, who pay his wages, don't want it.

    a magic retcon of anyhting is a cop out and very, very uncreative. i know these magical characters have the capabilities, but it just reeks of uncreative thinking.

    if jms does this in one more day, then his legacy on spider man will be totally tarnished, not that its not anyway. (but that was editorally mandated)
    maybe bendis can write it! or millar!

    t-o-n-y you anit't got no alibi-you tony! TONY!!

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    What if MJ got powers like her Ultimate Version (who is now Demogoblin).
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