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    Default What aliases have been used in both Marvel and DC continuity?

    Last night, on another site, I started asking for help in listing character "aliases" that have been used by both Marvel and DC characters at one time or another. Here's the current list.

    A few quick ground rules:

    1. For the sake of argument, let's just agree that the gods and other characters of Norse Myth, Graeco-Roman Myth, Egyptian Myth, etc., exist in both universes, okay? No need to list 'em all! :) (We can skip over King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table, too.)

    2. Also, I'm permitting any cases where one version usually (or always) uses the word "The" in front of the rest of the name, and the other version usually (or always) feels he can get by just fine without it!

    3. Also, I allow cases that started out in comics published by some other company, but got acquired by DC or Marvel later on! (If anyone can think of a character from the Ultraverse who shares a name with a DC hero or villain, for instance, then go ahead and say so!)


    The Current List

    Angel
    Arsenal
    Captain Marvel
    Changeling
    Comet (or The Comet)
    Cyclone
    Darkstar
    The Enchantress
    Guardian
    Jester
    Miss America
    Nightshade
    Quicksilver
    Sandman
    Scarecrow
    Sun Girl
    Talon
    Tarantula
    Whirlwind
    The Wizard


    Can you think of anyone else we're missing?

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    Depending on how deep you want to dig into this, you can go on for ages. Some examples:

    Marvel's Cyclops (Scott Summers) and DC's Cyclops (from The Brave and the Bold 64)
    Marvel's Cypher (Doug Ramsey) and DC's Cypher I (Victor Cypher, from Checkmate 27) and Cypher II (Avery Twombey, from Detective Comics 657)
    Marvel's Phoenix (Jean Grey, Rachael Summers, etc.) and DC's Phoenix (from G. I. Combat 225)
    Marvel's various Warlocks and DC's Warlock (from Green Lantern vol. 2 42)
    Marvel's Colossus (Peter Rasputin) and DC's Colossus (from Swamp Thing vol. 1 23)
    Marvel's Cannonball (Sam Guthrie) and DC's Cannonball (Sgt. Horace Calhoon, from Tomahawk 83)
    Marvel's Tigra (Greer Grant) and DC's Tigra (from New Gods vol. 1 7)
    Marvel's Demon (from the Defenders) and DC's Demon (Etrigan)
    Marvel's Half-Life I (from West Coast Avengers 12) and Half-Life II (from Hulk 334) and DC's Half-Life (from Superboy and the Ravers 2)
    Marvel's Titania (Mary MacPherran) and DC's Titania (from Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes 253)
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    Dr. Doome fought DC's Seven Soldiers during the Golden Age. That's almost identical spelling to the later and more infamous Dr. Doom.
    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
    Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Dr. Doome fought DC's Seven Soldiers during the Golden Age. That's almost identical spelling to the later and more infamous Dr. Doom.
    I had no idea! Over on Newsarama, I said that I hadn't yet made up my mind about cases that might arise where two characters had names with identical pronunciation but different spelling. Now it looks like I'd better reach a policy decision on that one, pretty darn quick! :)

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    Jack O' Lantern is a Spider-man enemy and Jack O'Lantern was a member of Primal Force.
    Tarantula was a Spider-man enemy and a Nightwing ... er... let's not get into that right now. She's met Nightwing though.
    There was a Wizard who fought ther JLA and a Wizard who fought the Fantastic Four.
    Alan Scott used to be Sentinel and Sentinels hunted down the X-men.
    Spider-girl was a named both used by a Legion of Super Heroes member and the future daughter of Spider-man.

    Still, my favorite double universe character was Agent Axis, a minor WWII villian. He was actually originally a DC character but one writer of Captain America got mixed up when naming old WWII villians Captain America had fought and included his name. Later another writer had to come in and introduce a Marvel version of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Depending on how deep you want to dig into this, you can go on for ages. Some examples:
    As I was going to sleep last night, I wondered if DC had ever used such names as Warlock and Phoenix. If they have used such names in stories that were supposed to be in continuity at the time, then I'm willing to count 'em, even obscure characters who haven't been heard from since the Silver Age or whatever!

    And although I began with just a quick list of names, without any fancy explanations included, I've figured all along that a "final version" would have to be more polished, with helpful notes such as you provided, to persuade people that I might actually know what I was talking about :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Depending on how deep you want to dig into this, you can go on for ages. Some examples:
    Marvel's Demon (from the Defenders) and DC's Demon (Etrigan)
    I'm not remembering Marvel's "Demon" offhand. (Although I could name a bunch of different characters who have claimed to be "demons," or "half-demons," or whatever.) Which version of the Defenders had this character making appearances? Was the character a hero or villain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorendiac View Post
    I'm not remembering Marvel's "Demon" offhand. (Although I could name a bunch of different characters who have claimed to be "demons," or "half-demons," or whatever.) Which version of the Defenders had this character making appearances? Was the character a hero or villain?
    He might be thinking of Gargoyle, the Defender who looked like an orange version of DC's Etrigan.
    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Jack O' Lantern is a Spider-man enemy and Jack O'Lantern was a member of Primal Force.
    I thought of them last night and then forgot to add that name to the list today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Tarantula was a Spider-man enemy and a Nightwing ... er... let's not get into that right now. She's met Nightwing though.

    There was a Wizard who fought ther JLA and a Wizard who fought the Fantastic Four.
    Those are already on the list, actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Alan Scott used to be Sentinel and Sentinels hunted down the X-men.
    I'm generally trying to avoid "group names" that have been used on both sides. Although I did count "Darkstar" because individual characters wearing the uniform in the DCU were presumably called "Darkstar" or "the local Darkstar" or whatever, the same way Hal Jordan is often called "Green Lantern" as his own superhero alias. I want to think about it a bit more, but I'll probably end up counting the robots since each individual is called a "Sentinel." (Unlike, say, the way the Avengers never had a member who was called "the Avenger," as far as I know.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Spider-girl was a named both used by a Legion of Super Heroes member and the future daughter of Spider-man.
    That, I didn't know! (Now that raises the question of whether I count an MC2 character as being part of "Marvel's continuity.")

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Still, my favorite double universe character was Agent Axis, a minor WWII villian. He was actually originally a DC character but one writer of Captain America got mixed up when naming old WWII villians Captain America had fought and included his name. Later another writer had to come in and introduce a Marvel version of him.
    That is funny! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    He might be thinking of Gargoyle, the Defender who looked like an orange version of DC's Etrigan.
    That thought popped into my head too, but I decided not to commit myself right away, in case he was remembering some obscure character who had once said, "Just call me . . . Demon!" or whatever.

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    After thinking about "Dr. Doome," I've decided that "Pronunciation trumps Spelling." If two names are obviously supposed to be said exactly the same way, then that's good enough for me! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorendiac View Post
    That thought popped into my head too, but I decided not to commit myself right away, in case he was remembering some obscure character who had once said, "Just call me . . . Demon!" or whatever.
    http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/demonjim.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    After a quick look, I don't see of those demons mentioned as having appeared in one or another of the "Defenders" titles. Did one of them?

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    I didn't either. I just wanted to proove there was a marvel character called Demon.

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    Immortus - The alternate future version of Kang who rules Limbo and whose mission is allegedly to undue all the damage done by all his past incarnations but who manages to cause all kinds of damage himself. (Marvel, mostly an Avengers villain)

    General Immortus - The incredibly decrepit old fart who can't stop making trouble for the Doom Patrol. (DC, Doom Patrol and Teen Titans)

    Power Man - Both bad guy Erik Josten and good guy Luke Cage have used the name. (Marvel)

    Power Man - An android used several times by Superman when he wanted to pretend, for whatever reason, to have a partner. (DC)

    This last one doesn't really count because the names are completelty different... but the characters are nearly identical to a horrifying degree. :)

    Captain Nazi - Fawcett Comics (and later DC) bad guy who brawls it out with the Big Red Cheese (Captain Marvel) and...

    Master Man - Marvel Comics bad guy who fought the Invaders during WWII. Visually, he was nearly identical to Captain Nazi... down the to the scar they both have in some artistic renderings.

    Not the same name, but the exact same character nearly to a tee. There /was/ a Fawcett Master Man, a superhero who technically blongs to DC because of a lawsuit and the purchase of the Fawcett characters when Fawcett went broke, but he's never actually appeared in DC comics so it doesn't count either. But fun trivia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMRich View Post
    Immortus - The alternate future version of Kang who rules Limbo and whose mission is allegedly to undue all the damage done by all his past incarnations but who manages to cause all kinds of damage himself. (Marvel, mostly an Avengers villain)

    General Immortus - The incredibly decrepit old fart who can't stop making trouble for the Doom Patrol. (DC, Doom Patrol and Teen Titans)
    I'm not ready to count "Immortus" and "General Immortus" as basically being the same name. Sorry!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMRich View Post
    Power Man - Both bad guy Erik Josten and good guy Luke Cage have used the name. (Marvel)

    Power Man - An android used several times by Superman when he wanted to pretend, for whatever reason, to have a partner. (DC)
    Thought I remembered something about that . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMRich View Post
    This last one doesn't really count because the names are completelty different... but the characters are nearly identical to a horrifying degree. :)

    Captain Nazi - Fawcett Comics (and later DC) bad guy who brawls it out with the Big Red Cheese (Captain Marvel) and...

    Master Man - Marvel Comics bad guy who fought the Invaders during WWII. Visually, he was nearly identical to Captain Nazi... down the to the scar they both have in some artistic renderings.

    Not the same name, but the exact same character nearly to a tee. There /was/ a Fawcett Master Man, a superhero who technically blongs to DC because of a lawsuit and the purchase of the Fawcett characters when Fawcett went broke, but he's never actually appeared in DC comics so it doesn't count either. But fun trivia.
    What the heck, if the Fawcett characters and reprint rights belong to DC, and if those old stories used to be in Earth-S continuity in the Pre-COIE days, then I'm willing to count that as a Master Man for the DC side of the fence!

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