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    Iain'tgottimetobleed RaggtyMan's Avatar
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    Default Batman vs Grendal crossover?

    I read it when i was in my teen but i cant remember the name of it, I would love to find a copy of the trades.

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    i dont no what your talking about but batman can win anyone

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    World's Favorite Orphan Frankie Dennis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironboy View Post
    i dont no what your talking about but batman can win anyone
    Actually from what I remember Grendal killed Batman, and half of the Gotham police.

    It was a stupid story.

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    There were two parts, Devil's Riddle and Devil's Masque. They were published by DC in 1993. I don't know if they've ever been included in any trades, or how hard it is to find them. Start by asking at your local comics shop.

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    They should be easy to find. They weren't exactly corporate shattering events, but a good model for how to do inter-company crossovers. If you enjoy Grendel, you'll like both series. Watching Batman interact with both Rose, and then Prime and having their stories have a link was thrilling. The covers for Riddle are particularly goreous pieces of work; simple and informative.

    Batman has been through so many voices - Wagner does him justice, and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChthonicSpirit View Post
    There were two parts, Devil's Riddle and Devil's Masque. They were published by DC in 1993. I don't know if they've ever been included in any trades, or how hard it is to find them. Start by asking at your local comics shop.
    Actually, there are two Batman/Grendel crossovers: the 1993 Hunter Rose crossover (two prestige books subtitled Devil's Riddle and Devil's Masque) and the 1996 Grendel Prime crossover (same format subtitles Devil's Bones and Devils Dance). Both are great, but the Hunter Rose crossover is the better of the two, for my money. (And I would go so far as to say that Hunter does own Batman, although the ending is less than conclusive, and that he's one of the few characters convincingly capable of running Bats through the ringer, psychologically if not physically. Hunter Rose is, in his own way, an evil, amoral Bruce Wayne, sort of the opposite side of the same coin.)

    If you're more of a Grendel fan, however, I'd say that the Prime 1996 crossover is more significant, as it follows the story of Grendel Prime after the events of War Child and had its own Wagner painted set-up of a sorts in Devil Quest. I'm not a big fan of Grendel Prime; he's a bit too one-dimensionally badass for me. Where there's a playfulness to Hunter Rose that makes him a great adversary for Batman, Prime is all business, and it's really only the time-travel depletion that puts Batman in his league. (Yes, I know that Batman takes down people more powerful than him all the time, but Grendel Prime is one powerful, cunning, ruthless, and resourceful adversary.)

    In short, I highly recommend both series, although the Hunter Rose story is the standout. I do not think they have been reprinted in trade format. I'd also highly recommend Wagner's Faces arc from Legends of the Dark Knight, which I know has been collected as I own a copy.

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