Is the time of Ultimate Apocalypse at hand?

[Frodo-X]

So, for months now, we've been tossing around theories that maybe, just maybe, Ultimate Apocalypse is coming soon. There's the theory that he'll resurrect the dead Ultimate X-men for his Horsemen, with Sinister being the fourth. It's also been said that when he inevitably comes, it will be big, very big for the Ultimate Universe. Well, today, in New Joe Fridays, Quesada gives us this tidbit:

In the Ultimate U, you’re going to start to see the seeds of a very important story start to bear fruit. We have some major shake ups coming, but as of this Joe Fridays, we’re way to far ahead to even speak of it.

We also know that a character is about to die in Ultimate X-men (I'll spare the spoiler just in case one of you hasn't read it yet). Which will equal three dead X-men (Beast, Gambit, upcoming death) and, as I said, Sinister could be the fourth. Perhaps he'll successfully kill himself, and then come back as the 4th Horseman.

So, am I just reading too much into Quesada's comment, or do you think there's a possibility that this is coming soon?

[Beast]

I agree. I think Ultimate Apocalypse is definatly at hand. Hopefully it's a mini like Ultimate Galactus, just so it can involve the entire Ultimate Marvel Universe and not just the X-Men. But I think Apocalypse is done with Sinister. He was a failure. But there's other alternatives. That kid that was killed in the cave by Wolverine would work as a decent Horseman. And there's Lady Deathstrike as well, considering Longshot broke her neck. :)

[Arachnid]

So, for months now, we've been tossing around theories that maybe, just maybe, Ultimate Apocalypse is coming soon. There's the theory that he'll resurrect the dead Ultimate X-men for his Horsemen, with Sinister being the fourth. It's also been said that when he inevitably comes, it will be big, very big for the Ultimate Universe. Well, today, in New Joe Fridays, Quesada gives us this tidbit:



We also know that a character is about to die in Ultimate X-men (I'll spare the spoiler just in case one of you hasn't read it yet). Which will equal three dead X-men (Beast, Gambit, upcoming death) and, as I said, Sinister could be the fourth. Perhaps he'll successfully kill himself, and then come back as the 4th Horseman.

So, am I just reading too much into Quesada's comment, or do you think there's a possibility that this is coming soon?

I agree but for the record, Gambit wasn't an X-man, unfortunately. That sucked. I was waiting for him to join and then he is killed. That absolutely bummed me out. Also, Wolverine might become a horsemen. Remember Jean was having visions of killing him as pheonix? It's a possibility.

[Sparda]

They should really involve the whole ultimate verse of hero's and include alot of interesting plots, such as having Peter cloned and the clone having jabber aura and trained for the sole purpose of killing big A or have Nate summers have an appearance to led a rebellion against big A. There are a load of possibilities on how the storyline would go and personally I would like them to put Mark miller doing the storyline.

But I feel it is quite too early so meanwhile I prefer they continue the ultimate line with unique ultimate villians that never showed in 616 (like the liberators and such.

[kel25]

I think they will do U Apocalypse but I'm not so sure if it will be happening soon. The current story arc will be killing off one of the X-Men. They have announced that a villain will be Ultimatized for an upcoming story arc and I believe that the character that dies will become that villain.

Taking a look at upcoming events for other titles and I doubt that Ultimate Apocalypse will be making an appearance in those. They are also doing the Ultimate/Supreme Powers crossover now so Ultimate Apocalypse is probably a good year away at the earliest.

[kel25]

They should really involve the whole ultimate verse of hero's and include alot of interesting plots, such as having Peter cloned and the clone having jabber aura and trained for the sole purpose of killing big A or have Nate summers have an appearance to led a rebellion against big A. There are a load of possibilities on how the storyline would go and personally I would like them to put Mark miller doing the storyline.

A few points

1. Strongly agree that this should involve all the titles.
2. A Spidey clone training to a killer for him is a bit weak. I wouldn’t mind them being involved in the story arc but the idea of one training to kill Apocalypse raises some questions that would need to be answered and put too much of a spot light on a lower rate character.
3. There is no Nathan Summers and hopefully never will be one now that Ultimate Cable was reviled to be someone else. It would be hard to add him now to the Ultimate Universe without making him too ridiculous.
4. Mark Millar would be my first choice as writer.

[Mister Mets]

I didn't think about how Ultimate Apocalypse is a plot that's been set up for years, although I'd be a bit disappointed if this is the big project, just because I don't see why Ultimate Apocalypse should be more than a 6-12 issue arc of Ultimate X-Men.

I think it's more likely that this is tied to the grand conspiracy which has been hinted at since Ultimate Marvel Team Up #2.

[Toboe]

I think it's more likely that this is tied to the grand conspiracy which has been hinted at since Ultimate Marvel Team Up #2.

Me too since they seem to be talking about that a lot this days. If Ultimate Apocalypse ever get done I hope it's more like the one in X-Men Evolution, that was neat. And might be a good way to bring back the prematurely killed off characters.

I like him better as Sinister's hallucinations, though.

[wingsofdamnation]

well since prof x dies and we know shadowking is going to be coming soon i think its pretty safe to assume that prof x becomes shadowking in a sorta ult onslaught kinda way. so the henchmen could be kid from cave, beast, gambit, and sinister.

[Arachnid]

well since prof x dies and we know shadowking is going to be coming soon i think its pretty safe to assume that prof x becomes shadowking in a sorta ult onslaught kinda way. so the henchmen could be kid from cave, beast, gambit, and sinister.

Remember Apocalypes didn't like Sinister? He was a discrace and he isn't dead either. Look:

Sinister Lives!!!


Edit:
Wait. Proffesor X dies? You think he will be killed by Cable?

[wingsofdamnation]

Remember Apocalypes didn't like Sinister? He was a discrace and he isn't dead either. Look:

Sinister Lives!!!


Edit:
Wait. Proffesor X dies? You think he will be killed by Cable?

so says the solicits for march

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=6186

[Omega Alpha]

I don't think that the big Ultimate event will involve Apocalypse. My guesses are either Ultron (who already showed up in Ultimates) or something cosmic.

If it's Ult X related, will have something to do with Phoenix, since Quesada said Singer is going to take over and he'll probably be trying to tell a similar story as the one he would in the X3. But, then again, Quesada said Singer was going to show up this year, so...

[kel25]

Even though Apocalypse doesn't like Sinister much I can still easily see him upgrading him and using him as a minion. Take a look at major villians. Many of them have a kicking boy that they hate but keep around. Mr. Sinister could easily be Apocalypse's kicking boy.

[Grunty]

Remember Apocalypes didn't like Sinister? He was a discrace and he isn't dead either. Look:
Edit:
Wait. Proffesor X dies? You think he will be killed by Cable?

Well Sinister was already shown alive when Longshot was brought into the Triskilon (Nick Fury called him suicide endangered).
But i thinkm since how recent this apearance was away it really is a hint that Apocalyps might apear soon.

However the thing about death being only the first step, which Sinister said sounds intresting.
Also if you look back those four kids where shown on a wall together with photos of the X-men (and arrows connecting them) so i think they wheren't chosen as random as we think.

And here is something intresting. Did you notice that the kid we actualy learned the most about was the one resembling Marrow?
We learned where she lived, how her home looked, how old she was.
Now remember that Marrow in 616 was able to survive her heart being torn out (second heart plus healing factor).
So in theory a shot into the heart would be survivable, wouldn't it?

Image the emergy personal having been paid to fake that each of the victims where death, so that Apocalyps men could pick her up and you have a mutant capable of surviving a shot into the heart with no one missing her.

Hey i am not going to say that its 100% sure Synch, Destiny and Maggot died since every fan can have hopes.
However its somewhat strange that of all the four mutants Sinister killed, the only one who still alive in 616 is Marrow?
So why should the writers chose 3 death 616s and 1 still alive 616 character? Only because of the dislike Marrow has by some writers (I AM LOOKING AT YOU CLAREMONT!!!)? Maybe but its still possible there is a reason.

For example what if Apocalyps wanted mutants that are cabable of surviving such a attack without dying? Image Sinnisters attack being a test!

Okay you might ask why Northstar wasn't captured as well? Hey remember he was with the X-men just a short time before, so maybe the arrived before the emergency!

Because of this i would bring in Apocalyps into Ultimate with a sudden attack on Emmas school with the aim to capture Northstar and as many other mutant kids as possible.

Okay you can say i see to many things (and dead people).

[Mister Mets]

A few reasons I wouldn't want Ultimate Apocalypse to be its own mini series.

1. It removes what should be a kickass momentous storyline from the Ultimate X-men at a time when the series needs as much buzz as it can get (selling less than the other X-Men comics, Ultimates, and Ultimate Spider-Man.)

2. I don't recall anyone complaining about there being too few Ultimate books. With the four regular series, Ultimate Power, the upcoming Ultimate Iron Man sequel, the upcoming Ultimate Wolverine mini, and the rest of Ultimate Wolverine VS Hulk, there's really no need to release another 6-12 issue title, especially if the story could just as easily be told in the pages of Ultimate X-Men.