Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[DocAbsurd]

Tricky, I didn't sign any NDA. The work I did for you pre-dates the current wave of paranoia. What's been holding that up for the past 2 years?

BTW, everyone, I remembered something about the NDAs, something he discussed with me over the phone during the summer when he started passing them out like PEZ along with his contracts:

He got the idea from an old book he found about legal contracts for artists and authors. I remember the book; it came out shortly after I started working at a bookstore in Florida around 1992/93. It was quite handy, as it gave generic outlines for basic agreements between publishers and creators.

However.

They still needed to be notarized. If all you did was email it back to him, it's about as binding as the electricity it took to send it.

The whole idea behind the NDAs is fairly recent, probably within the past 8 months or so. I know the one he sent me -- and I never signed -- is dated from June or July. Which also makes me wonder what legal bindings are holding up TotS #1; that work was completed back in late 1994/early 1995, to be introduced at the Spooky convention that got canceled twice.

But, back to my query:

Where's my money, Tricky?

Go ahead, claim some precious NDA. But y'know what I realized? You would've broken the NDA by allowing me to be mentioned in Mr Johnston's article, hoping that I would back up your claims. Which would mean I had nothing holding me back about speaking freely.

Woof woof, Tricky; you screwed the pooch.




Doc 'Doggie Style' Absurd

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt, he's obviously saying that you are a child, which I'm certain you're not. That's defamation of character. You sue his ass!



Hey, you forgot to capitalize "Di-", oh- ohhh! I get it! Dick. :)

He no longer deserves capitals.


dick and I had a conversation already when I explained to him I was 34, 6'2", 200lbs and unlikely to take shit from him in person. Not a threat, mind you, just that he wouldn't dream of talking the trash he does if he wasn't behind a keyboard. (This was when he said he was going to MegaCon and had a "Surprise" for me. I hope it is his attorney's name)

[wishlish]

The whole idea behind the NDAs is fairly recent, probably within the past 8 months or so. I know the one he sent me -- and I never signed -- is dated from June or July. Which also makes me wonder what legal bindings are holding up TotS #1; that work was completed back in late 1994/early 1995, to be introduced at the Spooky convention that got canceled twice.

So, Doc-

if you have an unsigned NDA, could you post it here and share? If necessary, I'll give you hosting space on whyilovecomics.com for the document.

Ray

[DocAbsurd]

Guess what I found?

One of his NDAs.

Anyone wanna see it?




Doc 'Confidential' Absurd

[titanfan]

As someone said, if the NDA isn't notarized, it is *definitely* not legally binding. And even if it is--it might not be legally binding either.

It seems to be the latest fad among enterpreneurs. I get asked to sign them all the time--as a form of intimidation so that they can protect their ideas I guess. I don't tell them I know they aren't legally binding (because I might want the job), but most of the time, they're legally worthless.

[Jack Zodiac]

Jim,
I don't know where youre coming from, but I'm not broke. I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.

So, you've been prepping these lawyers for three months? If you'd paid these folks on time in the first place, you wouldn't be the star of this hilarious fuckin' show.

Well twice is not too bad,

check out newsarama,

The administrtor kicks people out daily for lesser things.

Yeah, but the admins at Newsarama usually aren't being sued for breach of contract by the folks they're banning. Unless Rick works at Newsarama, too.

How do you sleep at night?

JP

On a mountain of hot, naked chicks.

Oh! You meant Olney? On a pile of broken dreams and lost hope... I'd imagine.

And my pockets may not be deep as some, but in part that's because I pay my debts.

And Mark fakes right! Left! Then, oh- downtown with the OSNAP!

[wishlish]

Guess what I found?

One of his NDAs.

Anyone wanna see it?

Does Rick's car smell bad?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Guess what I found?

One of his NDAs.

Anyone wanna see it?




Doc 'Confidential' Absurd

Yes, please.

[Jack Zodiac]

Again, I'll just interject here -- again -- that everyone that worked on TOTS #1 had a legal NDA and contract in place. Now it is a matter of getting to the bottom of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

The "chicken" being you not paying them anywhere close to the parameters of the contract, and the "egg" being them breaking these sacred NDAs. Fair fuckin' bet it's the chicken.

[DocAbsurd]

This Agreement is entered into and is effective as of June 20th, 2006 by and between TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney, and the entity named below, referred to herein as "Recipient".

Definition of Confidential Information: Each party agrees that all information and materials disclosed by TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney and Recipient regarding a proposed business deal between the parties, including the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the existence of the discussion between the parties, will be considered and referred to collectively in this Agreement as "Confidential Information". Confidential Information does not include information that is now or subsequently becomes generally available to the public through no fault or breach on the part of either party; either party can demonstrate to have had rightfully in its possession prior to disclosure to the receiving party; is independently developed by either party without the use of any Confidential Information; or either party rightfully obtains from a third party who has the right to transfer or disclose it.

Nondisclosure and Nonuse of Confidential Information: The parties shall not disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate Confidential Information to anyone other than those of its employees and trusted subcontractors with a need to know, and each party shall take reasonable precautions to prevent any unauthorized use, disclosure, publication, or dissemination of Confidential Information. The parties accept the Confidential Information for the sole purpose of evaluation in connection with either parties' business discussions with each other. Each party shall not use Confidential Information otherwise for its own or any third party's benefit without the prior written approval of an authorized representative of the disclosing party in each instance. The foregoing restrictions on Confidential Information shall not apply to Confidential Information that is required to be disclosed in connection with any suit, action or other dispute related to the Confidential Information, or otherwise required to be disclosed as a matter of law.

Miscellaneous: All Confidential Information remains the property of the disclosing party and no license or other rights to Confidential Information is granted or implied hereby. All Confidential Information is provided "AS IS" and without any warranty, whether express or implied, as to its accuracy or completeness. Each party hereby acknowledges that unauthorized disclosure or use of Confidential Information could cause irreparable harm and significant injury to the disclosing party that may be difficult to ascertain. Accordingly, each party agrees that the disclosing party will have the right to seek and obtain immediate injunctive relief to enforce obligations under this Agreement, in addition to any other rights and remedies each party may have.




Entire Agreement and Governing Law: This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement with respect to the Confidential Information disclosed herein and supersedes all prior or contemporaneous oral or written agreements concerning such Confidential Information. This Agreement may not be amended except by the written agreement signed by authorized representatives of both parties. This agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California, State of New York, and Recipient’s State of home residence, and, excluding that body of individual State laws concerning conflicts of law.

Understood and Agreed to by the duly authorized representative of the parties:

By: Rick Olney Recipient: Tim Toboloski

Rick Olney

Title: Owner/Manager Name:_____________________(Please sign)

TightLip Entertainment

Date: June 20th, 2006 Date:__________________

[OzBat!]

Don't have a copy of that book around anywhere, do ya Doc? Be interesting to see what these NDA's say!

EDIT: he's quick!

[THEDOC]

Guess what I found?

One of his NDAs.

Anyone wanna see it?




Doc 'Confidential' Absurd

I do I do...nice talkin' to you tonight Tim.

[EdContradictory]

Oh! You meant Olney? On a pile of broken dreams and lost hope... I'd imagine.

I can't sleep. These broken dreams keep poking me.

[THEDOC]

This Agreement is entered into and is effective as of June 20th, 2006 by and between TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney, and the entity named below, referred to herein as "Recipient".

Definition of Confidential Information: Each party agrees that all information and materials disclosed by TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney and Recipient regarding a proposed business deal between the parties, including the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the existence of the discussion between the parties, will be considered and referred to collectively in this Agreement as "Confidential Information". Confidential Information does not include information that is now or subsequently becomes generally available to the public through no fault or breach on the part of either party; either party can demonstrate to have had rightfully in its possession prior to disclosure to the receiving party; is independently developed by either party without the use of any Confidential Information; or either party rightfully obtains from a third party who has the right to transfer or disclose it.

Nondisclosure and Nonuse of Confidential Information: The parties shall not disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate Confidential Information to anyone other than those of its employees and trusted subcontractors with a need to know, and each party shall take reasonable precautions to prevent any unauthorized use, disclosure, publication, or dissemination of Confidential Information. The parties accept the Confidential Information for the sole purpose of evaluation in connection with either parties' business discussions with each other. Each party shall not use Confidential Information otherwise for its own or any third party's benefit without the prior written approval of an authorized representative of the disclosing party in each instance. The foregoing restrictions on Confidential Information shall not apply to Confidential Information that is required to be disclosed in connection with any suit, action or other dispute related to the Confidential Information, or otherwise required to be disclosed as a matter of law.

Miscellaneous: All Confidential Information remains the property of the disclosing party and no license or other rights to Confidential Information is granted or implied hereby. All Confidential Information is provided "AS IS" and without any warranty, whether express or implied, as to its accuracy or completeness. Each party hereby acknowledges that unauthorized disclosure or use of Confidential Information could cause irreparable harm and significant injury to the disclosing party that may be difficult to ascertain. Accordingly, each party agrees that the disclosing party will have the right to seek and obtain immediate injunctive relief to enforce obligations under this Agreement, in addition to any other rights and remedies each party may have.




Entire Agreement and Governing Law: This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement with respect to the Confidential Information disclosed herein and supersedes all prior or contemporaneous oral or written agreements concerning such Confidential Information. This Agreement may not be amended except by the written agreement signed by authorized representatives of both parties. This agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California, State of New York, and Recipient’s State of home residence, and, excluding that body of individual State laws concerning conflicts of law.

Understood and Agreed to by the duly authorized representative of the parties:

By: Rick Olney Recipient: Tim Toboloski

Rick Olney

Title: Owner/Manager Name:_____________________(Please sign)

TightLip Entertainment

Date: June 20th, 2006 Date:__________________

Don't see nothing about payments or not being paid nor being not to mention that.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Don't see nothing about payments or not being paid nor being not to mention that.

You beat me to it.

I cannot WAIT to see the dick's meltdown now!