Is Superman so Immortal?

[jackolover]

To all those DC fans, I have a few questions about their DC God

1. When Supes was killed, did you guys feel betrayed that the writers went that step and killed off your major character?

2. When supes was killed he didn't really die, he turned into superman red and blue. That means every other Krytonian who dies turns into a red and blue version of themselves. Why haven't these Kryptonians ever come looking for Kal Al, and overtake a new planet?

[Jack Zodiac]

1. When Superman died, I knew it wouldn't stick, so I didn't care. I mean, it was a great story and the art was fantastic, but everybody knew he wasn't really dead.

2. Superman Red and Superman Blue weren't a result of his death, they were a result of him getting his powers kickstarted after Final Night, and another failed attempt at "refreshing" the character.

[jackolover]

2. Superman Red and Superman Blue weren't a result of his death, they were a result of him getting his powers kickstarted after Final Night, and another failed attempt at "refreshing" the character.

Wait. You don't think other Kryptonians can do this?

[Joe Acro]

2. Superman Red and Superman Blue weren't a result of his death, they were a result of him getting his powers kickstarted after Final Night, and another failed attempt at "refreshing" the character.

Him turning into an energy being was a result of Final Night. The split was due to a later attempt of Hank Henshaw to siphon all of his energy and, thus, get rid of him. Somehow, despite him losing his entire body, he split into two forms and reclaimed his energy.

But to answer the title, I don't think Superman is immortal. Like everything else, he has the potential to die.

[Knight Lancer]

They might, but they probably don't want to go down that avenue...

[Kara Zor El]

To all those DC fans, I have a few questions about their DC God

1. When Supes was killed, did you guys feel betrayed that the writers went that step and killed off your major character?

2. When supes was killed he didn't really die, he turned into superman red and blue. That means every other Krytonian who dies turns into a red and blue version of themselves. Why haven't these Kryptonians ever come looking for Kal Al, and overtake a new planet?

I didn't feel betrayed because I knew he'd come back. And I enjoyed the story and really enjoyed he Reign of the Supermen. I didn't like the way he was brought back though. with Pa Kent having a heart attack and then his spirit finding Clark's spirit in limbo with demons parading him around on a throne type thing and all that jazz.

As Zodiac says above you got that wrong about red and blue supes. Nothing to do with his death and came years after his resurrection.

[Jack Zodiac]

Him turning into an energy being was a result of Final Night. The split was due to a later attempt of Hank Henshaw to siphon all of his energy and, thus, get rid of him. Somehow, despite him losing his entire body, he split into two forms and reclaimed his energy.

Right. Either way, the electromagnetic powers and the splitting into Superman Red and Superman Blue, in both cases that it happened, had nothing to do with him being Kryptonian, so...

Wait. You don't think other Kryptonians can do this?

...no, they couldn't/can't.

[jackolover]

I didn't feel betrayed because I knew he'd come back. And I enjoyed the story and really enjoyed he Reign of the Supermen. I didn't like the way he was brought back though. with Pa Kent having a heart attack and then his spirit finding Clark's spirit in limbo with demons parading him around on a throne type thing and all that jazz.

As Zodiac says above you got that wrong about red and blue supes. Nothing to do with his death and came years after his resurrection.

Hang on. Didn't red and blue appear immediately after Supes died? Who were those imposters?

[karasu]

That was one of the worst moments in Comic history IMO. I wasn't even reading his books back then, but it was such an obvious plea for attention that it made me sick. Then I read the story and it's unbelievably vapid.

[PatrickG]

Hang on. Didn't red and blue appear immediately after Supes died? Who were those imposters?

No. Four people showed up as "Supermen" after Superman died. One was Steel, a guy carrying on his work. One was his clone, Superboy. One was a weapon from Krypton named the Eradicator. One was a fake Cyborg Superman.

None were the real Superman who came back due to a lot of coincidences and efforts to save him. He teamed with Steel, Superboy and the Eradicator to fight the Cyborg.

Superman Red and Blue showed up years later and were basically the result of several scientific flukes in a row. And had nothing to do with Superman being Kryptonian.

Also, DC's not my god. I don't understand prefering DC over Marvel or Marvel over DC or Superman over Batman or Batman over Superman. I like what I like. Probably more DC than Marvel but I think any "competition" between the two companies is usually pretty fake and that taking either side is retarded.

[dupersuper]

The red/blue thing had NOTHING to do with the death/return story. It just happened to occur shortly after the return, that's all. He died and came back. He got split into 2 different energy beings. He's also been in a t-rexs' mouth, wrestled a rebelling angel, and been at the big bang an impressive 3 times. He's Superman; for him these all fall into the "just another day at the office" heading.

[jackolover]

No. Four people showed up as "Supermen" after Superman died. One was Steel, a guy carrying on his work. One was his clone, Superboy. One was a weapon from Krypton named the Eradicator. One was a fake Cyborg Superman.

None were the real Superman who came back due to a lot of coincidences and efforts to save him. He teamed with Steel, Superboy and the Eradicator to fight the Cyborg.

Superman Red and Blue showed up years later and were basically the result of several scientific flukes in a row. And had nothing to do with Superman being Kryptonian.

Also, DC's not my god. I don't understand prefering DC over Marvel or Marvel over DC or Superman over Batman or Batman over Superman. I like what I like. Probably more DC than Marvel but I think any "competition" between the two companies is usually pretty fake and that taking either side is retarded.

Thanks for the rundown of that post-Superman period, but in that rundown you mention supes teams up with those 3. Does that mean Kal Al is immortal if he was still teaming up, while he was dead? (Obviously, the Red and Blue were not a part of this story - thanks)

Just to clear up, what I meant was that Superman was the God of DC, not that DC was a God.

[PatrickG]

Er.

No.

Kal-EL came back from the dead.

He's not immortal.

He has died a few times.

So has Batman.

[Joe Acro]

Thanks for the rundown of that post-Superman period, but in that rundown you mention supes teams up with those 3. Does that mean Kal Al is immortal if he was still teaming up, while he was dead? (Obviously, the Red and Blue were not a part of this story - thanks)

He fought alongside them with limited powers after awaking from his "coma" or "stasis" or whatever it was.

Just to clear up, what I meant was that Superman was the God of DC, not that DC was a God.

You may think so, but he isn't. Spectre doesn't serve him. In fact, Morrison portrayed himself as God once.

[jackolover]

He fought alongside them with limited powers after awaking from his "coma" or "stasis" or whatever it was.

You may think so, but he isn't. Spectre doesn't serve him. In fact, Morrison portrayed himself as God once.

Allergorically, I mean, Superman is the DC God, not an actual God.

And explain to me again what this stasis or coma is, if he was killed by Doomsday, please Joe?