The Ebony Blade

[Taskmaster]

So where is it right now? Black Knight has been using one over in Excalibur, but apparently Black Panther took one from an evil Black Knight a while back. I know there are two in the 616 Universe, the original and the one Proctor brought over from another universe, but last I knew at least one of them (I think Proctors) was in the hands of Bloodwraith who was trapped with in within a country due to the curse. Personally I prefer that Dane sticks with the superior Blade of Light and Shield of Night, but it'd still be nice to have an idea what happened with the blade(s). Any ideas?

[mattbib]

The Wikipedia entry says that the Bloodwraith gave up Proctor's blade for this realities. Crystal then took Proctor's. The entry also points out that the Black Panther is in possession of one, from that other "Black Knight" that appeared in the first issues of the current Panther series, but who knows if that's either the true Ebony Blade, Proctor's, or some fake.

The question really is if Dane currently has the true Ebony Blade, what happened to Sean Dolan?

[Loki]

The Wikipedia entry says that the Bloodwraith gave up Proctor's blade for this realities. Crystal then took Proctor's. The entry also points out that the Black Panther is in possession of one, from that other "Black Knight" that appeared in the first issues of the current Panther series, but who knows if that's either the true Ebony Blade, Proctor's, or some fake.

The question really is if Dane currently has the true Ebony Blade, what happened to Sean Dolan?

I think Dane would know the difference, and there's a comment in Excalibur about the blade always eventually making its way back to him. Which for my money means Black Panther's got a fake, made by the Vatican for their fake.

[Taskmaster]

I think Dane would know the difference, and there's a comment in Excalibur about the blade always eventually making its way back to him. Which for my money means Black Panther's got a fake, made by the Vatican for their fake.

Sounds logical, at least htaat gives us an excuse to cover up the current Black Panther run

[mattbib]

I think Dane would know the difference, and there's a comment in Excalibur about the blade always eventually making its way back to him. Which for my money means Black Panther's got a fake, made by the Vatican for their fake.

I agree that Dane has the original. But the Panther could then be in possession of Proctor's. Which still leaves unanswered the question of what happened to Sean Dolan.

[Will.S]

I agree that Dane has the original. But the Panther could then be in possession of Proctor's. Which still leaves unanswered the question of what happened to Sean Dolan.

That's what kind of bugs me, it's never shown what happened to Sean other than offhandedly.

[the4thpip]

The first few issues of the Black Panther relaunch were only tangentially related to 616 continuity. Just look at the Russian Radioactive Man, who for some reason looked exactly like the Chinese Radioactive Man who was active in Thunderbolts at the same time. I like to think of those issues as happening on Earth H.

[XPac]

Hudlin probably wanted BP to get the blade just because it had the word "ebony" in it.

I'm not sure why the writers decided to give Dane back the Ebony Blade when he already had a superior weapon with the sword and shield, but I'm fairly certain he has the real one.

There's probably some sort of unexplained portal to the Ultimate Universe in Wakanda that explains all these continuity glitches.

[bkdane]

Hudlin probably wanted BP to get the blade just because it had the word "ebony" in it.

I'm not sure why the writers decided to give Dane back the Ebony Blade when he already had a superior weapon with the sword and shield, but I'm fairly certain he has the real one.

There's probably some sort of unexplained portal to the Ultimate Universe in Wakanda that explains all these continuity glitches.

My favorite Marvel character was always the Black Knight ever since Avengers #48. The first appearance of the Black Knight since he was seen in a few panels in the Avengers Disassembled was in BP # 3. A priest states that the vatican reacquired contol of the Ebony Blade and there was british lad who could wield it. The Black Knight they showed looked like Dane Whitman to me. The winged horse looked liked Strider. I thought it was interesting that he was now a Catholic religious fanatic. Maybe that was the only way to combat the curse? When I brought this up, I was told that Hudlin himself said that his Black Knight wasn't Dane Whitman. In rereading some of BP #3, I noticed a priest states that the British lad is a decendent of Sir Lancelot. Dane Whitman never was a decendent of Lancelot but of Sir Percy.

Dane Whitman in NEX written by Frank Tieri is the Black Knight. He offered no explanation of how Dane got the Ebony Blade back from Sean Dolon and he stated in an interview that the Black Knight must have the Ebony Blade and he would not use the sword of light, shield of night BK.

The only theory I can come up with is the BP ebony blade is Proctor's and the ebony blade that Dane has is the one from Sir Percy. The fact that Captain Britian appears in BP #22 might be the beginning of an explanation about the swords if Claremont decides to use Dane in NEX when he returns.

[Karthak]

Just look at the Russian Radioactive Man, who for some reason looked exactly like the Chinese Radioactive Man who was active in Thunderbolts at the same time. I like to think of those issues as happening on Earth H.

His dress was different from the chinese one, and his head wasn't formed the same way. Most of the resemblance was that they were both bald and glowing, which makes sense since they're radioactive.:D

[XPac]

In the Tom Breevort question thread on the Civil War thread, he said that BP has the real deal and if there's a mistake, it's one on the New Excalibur side.

[The Fury]

Right, I'm not up to date on things. The story in Black Panther ended with BP getting the Ebony Blade, now there was a 'fake' Black Knight in it, was this fake BK from the past or was he in the present time?

Basically this is just a mess up by the edittors at Marvel.

[XPac]

Right, I'm not up to date on things. The story in Black Panther ended with BP getting the Ebony Blade, now there was a 'fake' Black Knight in it, was this fake BK from the past or was he in the present time?

Basically this is just a mess up by the edittors at Marvel.

Well, Tom Breevort said he didn't even read the New Excalibur stuff so clearly not all the Marvel editors are on the same page with this stuff. And that is unfortunate.

I suppose there is something to be said about giving writers their leeway to write the stories they want, but continuity is important as far as keeping readers from being confused (as many of us are now).

[Pendaran]

If Wakandans have the real one, how hasn't the Black Panther's sister been consumed by the curse of the Blade? She killed a dude with it.

For that matter, why wouldn't Dane Whitman show up to go "hi, you're wielding a cursed weapon that will eventually eat your soul for you not being me. You might want to fork it over."

[Brian M.]

I thought the Ebony Blade was a pornstar. Uh...