The Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess

**Tish-the-Scorpion** · 11-15-2006, 08:54 AM

http://wii.gamespy.com/wii/legend-of.../745573p1.html

so far...got a 98% total at gamerankings.com.this game isn't out yet and its already getting a massive blow job

HARMONICA STYLE!............

**Mike Pothier** · 11-15-2006, 10:03 AM

Its Zelda. I hope nobody was expecting anything less. Its like, the steak of videogames.

**Novaya Havoc** · 11-15-2006, 05:44 PM

It's Zelda. It will always get good ratings so as not to piss off the legion of nostalgiacs who would fire-bomb the headquarters of any publication who says otherwise.

Zelda hasn't been good for me outside of a handheld for a looooong time. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask were both horrendous. Wind Waker was much better.

I'm off the Zelda train. Not until they, you know, have actual character development in a title. Just seeing the Master Sword and Triforce isn't enough to make me cream myself like most fanboys.

**Mike Pothier** · 11-15-2006, 05:58 PM

Right. Because all the gaming publications and journalists care so much about pissing off a few fanboys and getting some hatemail.

Whether or not you like Zelda is your prerogative, but to imply that it only gets high scores just to stave off some group of fanboys is a pretty stupid comment.

**Novaya Havoc** · 11-15-2006, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Pothier

Right. Because all the gaming publications and journalists care so much about pissing off a few fanboys and getting some hatemail.

Uh, pretty much. Unless a game is totally nuclear (or a shoddy spin-off title), a big-name franchise is NOT going to get a moderate-to-low score. Journalism is a fickle thing. 9.8? And Ocarina of Time is supposedly "the best game of all time." Bullocks. All big franchises get very positive scores unless they go totally down the crapper.

It's not the fanboys, but also the companies and their size. Do you really think that a game mag is going to give Nintendo's flagship title a moderate score? Bet your eyes they won't. They also will be kind to Konami and Square-Enix. It's that simple.

**Mike Pothier** · 11-15-2006, 07:00 PM

Look up Supermario Sunshine or Mario Kart: Double Dash on gamespot.

Big games have recieved lower than average scores when they deserved it. Like I said, if you don't like Ocarina of Time, thats your business. I'm not gonna fault you on personal taste. But it recieved high scores for good reason. It was a very, very well made game.

**blackdragon6** · 11-15-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Novaya Havoc

Uh, pretty much. Unless a game is totally nuclear (or a shoddy spin-off title), a big-name franchise is NOT going to get a moderate-to-low score. Journalism is a fickle thing. 9.8? And Ocarina of Time is supposedly "the best game of all time." Bullocks. All big franchises get very positive scores unless they go totally down the crapper.

It's not the fanboys, but also the companies and their size. Do you really think that a game mag is going to give Nintendo's flagship title a moderate score? Bet your eyes they won't. They also will be kind to Konami and Square-Enix. It's that simple.

if only i was a moderator....

**Atom_basher** · 11-15-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by blackdragon6

if only i was a moderator....

couldn't agree more.

anyone who thinks any Zelda game is bad is disillusion, I'm not saying everyone HAS to like the games, but to think they are bad is silly.

Originally Posted by Mike Pothier

But it recieved high scores for good reason. It was a very, very well made game.

Id (personally) go as far as to say OOT is probably the best game ever made

**Mike Pothier** · 11-15-2006, 09:51 PM

Well, best game ever is getting into the realm of personal opinion, which I was trying to avoid. Whether or not one likes a game, they can recognize at least how well its made.

Example: I hate the Gran Turismo, but I realize its a very good racing sim.

**Atom_basher** · 11-15-2006, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Pothier

Well, best game ever is getting into the realm of personal opinion,

hence me using "(personally)"

**Mike Pothier** · 11-15-2006, 10:04 PM

Ahhh... I gotta stop speed reading.

**Black Atom** · 11-15-2006, 10:26 PM

Well, if Novaya's looking for more character-oriented stuff, then Zelda doesn't really deliver a whole lot, that's a valid argument. And frankly, the older Zelda games are waaaay too hyped-up--OOT and LTTP do NOT live up to their crazy hype (Alundra for the PS1, despite being a rip-off blows LTTP out of the water). But it has been a uniquely consistent series for the most part, so it's not quite fair to say that's all name recognition.

If I remember though, Majora's Mask wasn't universally praised. It's the "one-per-gen" rule.

**Nyssane** · 11-15-2006, 10:38 PM

It is true -- a game is going to get a good score if it's a major named title like Zelda or Mario simply because it is a part of a franchise. I personally didn't like Ocarina of Time that much, and can't honestly find what is so appealing about it. But, fanboys crap their pants every time a new game is released that features their favorite mascot.