Gen 13 #2 (spoilers)

**Alex A Sanchez** · 11-09-2006, 10:36 AM

People have started to discuss this issue in the thread for #1- I'm just starting a separate thread so more people can locate the discussion.

In my opinion, this issue was much better than the first. We still don't understand the relationship to the current crop of Gen actives to the originals (if any), but its really starting to look like this is a complete relaunch. Instead of having 13 generations of genactives like before, it seems like these are simply the 13th batch of super-meta humans that have been created. Currently they are being called by the same names (i.e. Caitlin, Lane) but we don't know if these are their real names or just the names given to them in their fake lives. Since none of them are even living with their real parents, why would they be using their real names?

Like before, we have a man named Lynch working for IO, except this time we get to see his eye being shot out. We don't know if he'll be playing a major role this time, and we don't even know which side he's going to be on. Seeing the kids lost in the city made me miss the Lynch of old- the kids always had some type of parental figure cuz he was around. Now they are on their own against IO- its kind of scarey. It feels unsafe. But I guess that makes for a good story.

The characters are starting to feel like thesmselves again- Grunge is starting to lighten up. I'm sure when the situation lightens up we'll get to see character interaction of a lighter side. On the other hand, the pacing is way to fast for relationships in this book. Its issue two, the kids are in captivity, and Grunge is already stealing kisses and trying to make Fairchild his girlfriend? Waaaaay too fast. The same goes with the group hug as the end of last issue: it happened waaaaay to fast, which made it uber cheesey.

The biggest improvement in the book by far is Sarah's character. She's got attitude and a very strong personality. The way that things have been written so far, she should be the team leader: she's smarter than in the previous series, and less of a pushover than Caitlin.

Artwise, I'm warming up to Talent. This issue was better than the last, and I'm getting the feeling that he's just warming up. Remember that J. Scott's art in the original mini looked like your worse than average Jim Lee clone. It took him only 5 issues to build his own style that was incredible. How new is Talent (I've never seen anything drawn by him before)- we may see a repeat. Matt Banning's inks are awesome- I like them better than Sandra Hopes because they are fresh and new. Anything Hope inks reminds me of the work she did on Crimson (which I loved- I'm just in the mood for something new at the moment).

EDIT: Inserted Banning's name as the correct inker of the series.

**aukevin** · 11-09-2006, 11:33 AM

I too thought this was a great issue. I have high hopes for this comic :)

**DaveEB** · 11-09-2006, 12:07 PM

Isn't Matt Banning Inking this?

I loved this second issue. Yeah the relationships forming is a little awkward, but who's to say weird reactions like that wouldn't happen in that situation.

**rilokyle** · 11-09-2006, 02:47 PM

Still haven't had a chance to pick this up yet...... :(

Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow because I really wanna read this issue!

**DjMichael691** · 11-10-2006, 04:27 AM

So is this like a do-over, like a "Ultimate" Gen 13 ?

It can't be a continuation because look at Lynch.

**aukevin** · 11-10-2006, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by DjMichael691

So is this like a do-over, like a "Ultimate" Gen 13 ?

It can't be a continuation because look at Lynch.

It is unclear at this point. One theory is that they are clones of the original team.

**Locue** · 11-10-2006, 08:17 AM

So what's with Lynch then? Is he the real Lynch or is he a clone as well? The original Lynch was in Team (#) together with Grifter (Wildcats) and other, so it wouldn't really make sense to redo him. Continuity check? Clone saga? Either way, I'm not touching it. Sorry.

**aukevin** · 11-10-2006, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Locue

So what's with Lynch then? Is he the real Lynch or is he a clone as well? The original Lynch was in Team (#) together with Grifter (Wildcats) and other, so it wouldn't really make sense to redo him. Continuity check? Clone saga? Either way, I'm not touching it. Sorry.

I'm hoping he's a clone too. I'm a big fan of the Team 7 stuff with Lynch and the boys, so I hope they don't lose that.

**Magneto_X** · 11-10-2006, 07:58 PM

Wasn't the WSU rebooted ala Crisis via Captain Atom before "Worldstorm"?

I would assume that these characters are all new versions of the originals.

Locue:

Wildcats seems to be following the previous continuity---simply beginning when the last series took off---there have been major changes like Majestik's appearance.

Looks like Gen 13 might be the only title that is a genuine reboot.

**Arawn** · 11-11-2006, 02:36 AM

It's a complete relaunch, Gail has said repeatedly that it is. I don't know why people can't grasp that. But in the past 7 Gen13 interviews she has done she said it was a "total reboot"

**SKETCHSANCHEZ** · 11-11-2006, 03:00 AM

Loved it, even better than #1.

spoilers:

Roxy

end of spoilersbetter not be dead, seriously.

She's one of my top 10 favorite characters and I'd be lying if I said I didnt miss her in the time she was gone, so she better not be dead. I'll leave it at that.

Also, it's nice to see the Grunge is really a good martial artist now instead of just a wannabe. I like that.

**Locue** · 11-11-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Arawn

It's a complete relaunch, Gail has said repeatedly that it is. I don't know why people can't grasp that. But in the past 7 Gen13 interviews she has done she said it was a "total reboot"

Well, so what's the deal with a new Lynch then if this is the only reboot? They're throwing away all the backstory with Team 7 in a dark corner?

**Alex A Sanchez** · 11-12-2006, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Arawn

It's a complete relaunch, Gail has said repeatedly that it is. I don't know why people can't grasp that. But in the past 7 Gen13 interviews she has done she said it was a "total reboot"

This makes sense- I don't know where people got the idea that the kids could be clones. Nothing in the series gives any reason to believe that this has any connection to the previous continuity.

Originally Posted by Locue

Well, so what's the deal with a new Lynch then if this is the only reboot? They're throwing away all the backstory with Team 7 in a dark corner?

This new Lynch can still have the same history as the old Lynch- remember that the old Lynch also worked for IO. The two characters would diverge at the point when the kids escape: one Lynch decides to help them the other doesn't.

**rilokyle** · 11-17-2006, 02:23 PM

I finally got the issue today, and I loved it! Everything just feels right about the book, and I'm excited because I really wanted to like it. And now I really do!

**Stellar** · 11-20-2006, 02:58 PM

Try Jah love, mon.

The issue was aight, especially the escape. Still think it's way too serious for Gen 13, and wtf was up with Lynch being a merc? Deathblow seems to have spent 6 years away so I don't understand how the kids can still be kids and Lynch not be director of I.O. It's like an alternate reality, man.

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