Moderates, liberals and conservatives in DC universe

[stelok]

Liberals:
Green Arrow (Ollie Queen)
Batman
Wonder Woman
Mark Waid's Legion of Super-heroes

Conservatives:
Hawkman
Atom
Flash (Barry Allen)
Flash (Jay Garrick)

Moderates:
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Superman
Black Canary
Green Lantern (Alan Scott)

[JulianPerez]

I don't know if I'd classify Superman as a "moderate." As an alien, he probably doesn't see the difference humans make amongst each other as being truly meaningful.

Incidentally, I loved Geoff Johns take on the Hawkman-Green Arrow squabbling: it isn't a Monk/Ham or Cap/Hawkeye situation where they playfully jibe each other. Green Arrow provokes Hawkman, and Hawkman really DOES want to smack GA up a little.

I always loved how in the Satellite League, Green Arrow was...while he was a respected and admired hero, he was nonetheless a crank that when he started talking, everybody turns their brain off.

Batman as a liberal? Hmmm, I suppose it makes sense. Bruce Wayne always donned the Batman disguise in order to escape from his playboy life and pursue adventure...he might be a fashoinable limousine liberal. On the other hand he's also old money. He might be one of those conservatives that doesn't like G.W. Bush, and in 2000 probably voted for John McCain.

One guy that if he has any political beliefs at all, is probably liberal: Vibe. He strikes me as a lifestyle liberal, the kind that doesn't like the Religious Right.

Would it be the craziest guess in the world to make that Cary Bates's "silver" Captain Atom is probably a conservative? That guy gets four-dollar haircuts: one for each corner.

[Bat-Mite]

Detective Chimp said he was a republican in 52.

[mandog]

Batman/ Bruce Wayne is a rich man that hangs around with young boys. He is 100% Conservative.

[dupersuper]

The Atom and Flash are conservative??

[Loren]

I don't know if I'd classify Superman as a "moderate." As an alien, he probably doesn't see the difference humans make amongst each other as being truly meaningful.

Nonsense. He's spent most of his life on Earth, raised by human parents, surrounded by human friends. Superman isn't Kal-El disguised as a human reporter; he's Clark Kent, farmboy from the Midwest. He certainly doesn't dissociate himself from the rest of humanity.

[JulianPerez]

Detective Chimp said he was a republican in 52.

Ha ha, that is awesome beyond reason.

The Atom and Flash are conservative??

I don't know about Ray Palmer, but a good case can be made for Barry Allen being a conservative. He's a frugal, no-nonsense and practical person who works as a police scientist, and thus it's easier to see him as a conservative than liberal, though to my knowledge this has never been explicit. Plus, bow ties are very much a conservative fashoin statement.

It's hard to imagine Ray Palmer being political, though. If he is political, he's probably liberal: he's an intellectual and a product of academia. I mean, Gil Kane drew him as wearing GLOVES when he DRIVES. Bet he listens to NPR, too. :D

Though I can see the argument for Ray Palmer being conservative can come from. Really, except for the guilty white liberal Hal Jordan, any of the "serve and protect" white male heroes of the Silver Age look conservative.

In his "Serpent Crown" story, with the kinda-sorta JLA stand-in, Squadron Supreme, Englehart made the point that it's safe to assume most DC heroes are conservative and most Marvel heroes are liberal.

Nonsense. He's spent most of his life on Earth, raised by human parents, surrounded by human friends. Superman isn't Kal-El disguised as a human reporter; he's Clark Kent, farmboy from the Midwest. He certainly doesn't dissociate himself from the rest of humanity.

True, Superman isn't exactly the Silver Surfer or a Stranger in a Strange Land. Hell, Superman probably knows more about earth literature and earth history than most humans - but he certainly is isolated at an emotional level from the rest of the humanity, which is why the Fortress, the remains of Krypton is so important to him; with Supergirl, he celebrates Kryptonian holidays. He's the Earth's #1 citizen, yet ironically, he is alone and isolated.

Superman is familiar with the Earth, and to a degree identifies himself with it, but that's very different from saying he internalizes anything about it - like for instance, "earth" liberal or conservative politics.

And "farmboy from the Midwest" was always the most annoying element of the character in recent times. If I hear Jeph Loeb have him talk folksy about "the corn" or say "my Pa always said," I will beat Loeb to death with my Forrest Gump DVD.

[Super Buddies Forever]

I'm not sure what you could really classify Batman as. He's big on charity in his Bruce Wayne persona and against capital punishment (or at least taking lives by his own hand), but I don't know too many liberals who would build huge Orwellian satellites for the intent of spying on metahumans.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Superman is a Rosevelt Democrat, through and through.

Batman is a Law & Order Republican.

Wonder Woman is an Independent all the way.

Jay & Barry were both old fashion values kind of guys, but weren't political about it. Wally was very Republican. Bart is undecided.

Pre-Ollie, Hal was a JFK Democrat. Post-Ollie, he's a moderate who swings wildly between liberal and conservative viewpoints depending on the issue.

Ollie went from hippie to knee-jerk liberal to left-leaning liberatarian and back again.

Ray Palmer and Carter Hall were Republicans, but I doubt Palmer would be a Republican today given the cool reception science is getting from the right these days. Hawkgirl always voted Democrat, she just never told Carter.

Catwoman doesn't vote, nor does Martian Manhunter.

[brundlefly]

I'm not sure what you could really classify Batman as. He's big on charity in his Bruce Wayne persona and against capital punishment (or at least taking lives by his own hand), but I don't know too many liberals who would build huge Orwellian satellites for the intent of spying on metahumans.

Depends on whether or not you classify that satellite business as regulating those "in power" (i.e. metahumans) so that they don't abuse their power and violate people's rights, civil liberties, etc. Remember that the reason he put it up there in the first place was the JLA's violation of his (and Dr. Light's) rights & civil liberties with the mindwiping, so he was trying to keep that abuse of power from happening again. Add his strong defense of rights & civil liberties to his staunch gun-control and anti-death penalty stances and his support of social programs and he sounds pretty liberal to me. The only obvious Republican aspect I see in Wayne is the strong law-and-order stance.

[Stanlos]

I detest Blue/Red stuff.

[Stanlos]

Wonder Woman I think would be a moderate. She would not really go with an ideology per se but would rather deal with issues as they are rather than through a lens.

Thus there would be times when "Conservatives" would love her, and times when they want her to shut up and go away; there would be times when "Liberals" would love her, and others when they would want her to shut up and go away.

[Magneto_X]

I'd consider Superman a moderate Conservative.

Batman would probly be an Independent.

[Aaron Kashtan]

Liberals:
[...]
Mark Waid's Legion of Super-heroes

They are extremely liberal but it's not entirely accurate to lump them all together. Cosmic Boy is on the moderate side while other Legionnaires seem far more radical. And for all we know, Brainiac 5 might really want to conquer the galaxy by force. ;)

[curefreak]

Guy Gardner is completly conservative all the way he loves reagan.