Morisson, Explains Batman and Son

[Mia]

There's a small interview with Morisson in the latest issue of Wizard

From the gist of the interview I got the following. Yes Damien is Bruce's own flesh and blood. He also says that he is interested in stories of how f*ck ups (yes his words) grow up to redeem themselves later on. So I guess if Morisson has his druthers Damien the demon will grow up to be a hero. Little Damien is supposed to be angry and confused. But now that he is with his very cool Dad (Batman) he will grow up to be a fine upstanding citizen.


And for those of us who were puzzled by the incongruity of events that took place between SOD and what's in Morisson's work.Morisson admits that he went by his memmories of SOD, he did not follow it when he was writing.
He claims that Superboy's 'retcon' punch has saved his ass.

[the goddamn batman]

He claims that Superboy's 'retcon' punch has saved his ass.

oh, good. Well, I'm far less interested now.

[Constantine Drakon]

This moves Morisson down multiple notches on my respect pole. Damn. I thought the Damian story had some thought put into it. Instead he's got a high idea and is shoving it in there without giving much scrutiny to the characters' history. That's weak. That's Infinite Crisis weak. If he can't remember that Talia and Bruce love each other and just wants her to be a rapist... I don't know what to say.

[The Shadow]

He claims that Superboy's 'retcon' punch has saved his ass.

Thanks DC... for the LAMEST out in comics history!

Now instead of being accountable, all a writer has to yell is "RETCON PUNCH!" and everything's forgiven, explained away and forgotten.

Everything except that DAMN retcon punch.

[Joe Acro]

How would a retcon punch fix something that happened within the continuity of New Earth?

[The Shadow]

How would a retcon punch fix something that happened within the continuity of New Earth?

It takes the OLD story that Morrison changed to fit HIS story and makes the old story compatable with the new story.

Damn retcon punch.

[Joe Rice]

Christ, or you could just worry if it's a good story or not period. I'm not saying it is yet, but worrying about other stories is pretty stupid.

[Damo]

ARGH. Morrison, WTF? You had me at Ninja Man Bats. You lost me at Retcon Punch.

Christ, or you could just worry if it's a good story or not period. I'm not saying it is yet, but worrying about other stories is pretty stupid.

Except that a big part of why it's not a good story, to me, so far, is because of those other stories. These characters don't exist in a vacuum. Basically he's ignoring all previous Talia appearances and making her someone that would rape Batman, from what we've seen so far. So yeah, I'm going to look at other stories, specifically the ones where those two are in love and would never hurt one another if they could help it, then I'm going to look at this one with her being the psycho hose beast from hell for no reason and I'm going to have a small aneurism.

(just a teeny tiny one, because it's only a comic book).

[PaulTiberius]

Hmm. Maybe somebody better explain first just what continuity inconsistencies we're talking about between Son of the Demon and Morrison's latest??

[the goddamn batman]

rape Batman

the simple fact that these two words are in the same sentence is enough for me to not enjoy this run.

Rape. Batman. There is no context that makes this ok.

[Brian Cronin]

Hmm. Maybe somebody better explain first just what continuity inconsistencies we're talking about between Son of the Demon and Morrison's latest??

Morrison thought that Talia drugged Batman to have sex with her (hence the rape thing), when in reality, the sex was consensual, so in the recap in the recent Batman, Morrison referred to it as Talia drugging Batman.

-Brian

[IamtheRock3]

Actully like the story

Promblem I have is I am pretty sure at only 4 issues, That Damien will turn out not be his son

thus kind of takes away the impact

or accept continity glitches. But it always a better story if batman actully truly loved her and one time. And at one time she was good. Add more impact when she does bad

Also her hiding the son from BOTH bruce and Ra Al Ghul, and giving the kid to loving parents was an interesting move that could be followed up on

What changed her and stuff could of been interesting.

[Tadhg]

He admitted he screwed up, and jokingly referred to the retcon punch. What more do you want? Is he to commit suicide at the altar of fandom to appease you?

Obviously he should of read the Son of the Bat before writing this, and yes this likely means that Batman doesn't mean as much to him as it does to you; but did you expect it to? Very few writers are as in love with the characters as the fans, and usually the writers that ARE in love as much as the fans write mediocre to poor stories.

What I find interesting is that

He also says that he is interested in stories of how f*ck ups (yes his words) grow up to redeem themselves later on.

could apply to the story itself due to this fuck up. Personally, I'm going to see how the story grows.

[Damo]

He admitted he screwed up, and jokingly referred to the retcon punch. What more do you want? Is he to commit suicide at the altar of fandom to appease you?

Tempting... but I'll settle for Talia being written in character, as oppossed to being a hateful shrew, and an explanation that no, she didn't rape Batman (yea gods g'damn is right, those words should never be put together). If he can do that, all is (more or less) forgiven.

This isn't "oops, I forgot how the Spook and Batman met" this is "oops, I forgot that Talia isn't a rapist". Kinda a big boo boo to make.

[Tadhg]

It really is a dumb mistake, but he didn't try to turn her into a rapist. He thought he was following the "rules." You don't like the story; it's likely not going to change. You can either see where the story goes or not. But, and I could be reading too much into this, these posts seem like a total overreaction.