USM 101: Spoilers

[gliderpilotgirl]

Wow..this is officially the crappiest USM issue I have ever read. After 100, I was really counting on this one issue to pick up it. It didn't..It crapped on two key characters..Gwen and Mary Jane. Gwen, as Carnage went on a rampage with the FF stepping in, and Richard claimed that he doesn't know what happened to Gwen, she came to him like that. At the end of the fight Carnage depowered into Gwen. Aunt May was being taken away by Sue for medical treatment, as Richard had suddenly forgotten his medical skills. ( Me thinks he is a clone etc..not the real deal. )
And then, to top it off, Kaine revealed he had injected MJ with Oz. She appeared okay at first, then she got angry at him, ( rightfully so ) and transformed into a huge red sasquatch goblin.
Wow..what a disappointment. If Death of the Goblin is about MJ. I am so done with this book.

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Thanks Gilder but not be unappreciative but can someone else post a summary of actual events without the personal opinion. An objective review and summary I mean. Thanks.

[Sparda]

I was about to make this thread but he beat me to it. Don't listen to him THIS ISSUE OWNS BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Basically this, Gwen goes all mad crazy on the drones and are massacaring them while Peter is talking to his dad about getting May to a hospital. Fury shoots with all the slayers at carnage trying to catch her but instead hits parkers house. This pisses peter off and goes out the window in fury and grabbed Nick by the throat demanding that he stop shooting and he'll end up accidently killing may. Fury as usual is a asshole government guy who wants to clean up the spider clone incident to even stoop down to arresting peter and possibly hold him in a cell or kill him. Peter get's shot down by one of the Slayers and fury threatens to shoot him in the head if he does'nt stand down. His gun got roasted by none other than the human torch himself and the FF comes into the scene. Even Johnny mentioning he has 3 friends in the world and won't let fury hurt one of them. Richards demanded an explaination on why Fury is doing so much destruction and that it was'nt even peter's fault that he got cloned. Carnage meanwhile attacks Ben and threw him into some warehouse (damn!!!!). Sue meanwhile goes into the house and takes May for treatment while using her shields. Carnage all of a sudden attacks Reed (it was funny you should read this) while reed tries to examine her. Fury ordered all the slayers to fire at carnage even knowing reed is in the crossfire and she reverts back to Gwen. Peter lays on his knees crying and cursing Fury and wondering if his aunt will be alright.
Don't know what happend to Reed though.

Edit: oh ya forgot to mention that MJ turned into some kind of red wendigo monster and is about to attack ult Kaine.

Oh ya Fury says in a funny dialogue that Peter was the worst thing since the hulk became the hulk. Spidey got lime light :)

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My final thoughts................. BRING ON THE NEXT ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[gliderpilotgirl]

I was about to make this thread but he beat me to it. Don't listen to him THIS ISSUE OWNS BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Basically this, Gwen goes all mad crazy on the drones and are massacaring them while Peter is talking to his dad about getting May to a hospital. Fury shoots with all the slayers at carnage trying to catch her but instead hits parkers house. This pisses peter off and goes out the window in fury and grabbed Nick by the throat demanding that he stop shooting and he'll end up accidently killing may. Fury as usual is a asshole government guy who wants to clean up the spider clone incident to even stoop down to arresting peter and possibly hold him in a cell or kill him. Peter get's shot down by one of the Slayers and fury threatens to shoot him in the head if he does'nt stand down. His gun got roasted by none other than the human torch himself and the FF comes into the scene. Even Johnny mentioning he has 3 friends in the world and won't let fury hurt one of them. Richards demanded an explaination on why Fury is doing so much destruction and that it was'nt even peter's fault that he got cloned. Carnage meanwhile attacks Ben and threw him into some warehouse (damn!!!!). Sue meanwhile goes into the house and takes May for treatment while using her shields. Carnage all of a sudden attacks Reed (it was funny you should read this) while reed tries to examine her. Fury ordered all the slayers to fire at carnage even knowing reed is in the crossfire and she reverts back to Gwen. Peter lays on his knees crying and cursing Fury and wondering if his aunt will be alright.
Don't know what happend to Reed though.

Edit: oh ya forgot to mention that MJ turned into some kind of red wendigo monster and is about to attack ult Kaine.

Oh ya Fury says in a funny dialogue that Peter was the worst thing since the hulk became the hulk. Spidey got lime light :)

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goodness...I'm a SHE!! not a he, but anyways..I suppose if you like a big brawl the issue would be cool. But there was some out-of-character-ness going on..first all, Fury usually has some contingency plan..And the FF seemed a little too eager to trounce Fury. I didn't mind that part too badly, though I am still disliking the idea of Gwen being Carnage. What upset me the most was the hulking out of MJ. If they are going to give her powers they could have done it gracefully..not Harry part 2. Well...we are agreed that we eagerly await the next issue.

[robbrooks78]

I liked the issue, but I was upset by the ad for Ultimate Power that they dropped right into the middle of a 2 page spread. I read the whole first page wondering what I was missing, until I found the 2nd page.

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Well does Fury even know about Carnage. If he's not heard about it then he wouldn't have planned for it. That part seems simple enough. As for the Fantastic Four, as I understand it they don't actually like Fury or are buddy buddy with him either. They started out as a government think tank and it isn't as if they can break away on their own. It comes down to Shield having way to much power in this universe but I have a feeling that will change. With the Fantastic Four in somewhat of an open revolt against Fury's troops in order to protect Peter and his family. With the X-men suppose to be getting in on this I don't think his hold on power is going to last. Especailly if all these teams are suppose to continue after this. Then there are the Ultimates but I don't know what their relationship is like with Fury. MJ being turned into a Goblin I pretty much assumed was going to happen with her being locked in the Osborune lab. Seemed like a logical conclusion on my part. Especailly with the next arc being called what it's being called. Killing her might be a bad idea. However this furthers my feeling that she'll want nothing to do with Peter or Spider-man after things settle down. To much has happen to her in relation to Peter.

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[kel25]

Aunt May was being taken away by Sue for medical treatment, as Richard had suddenly forgotten his medical skills.

I want to make it clear that I have NOT read the issue at the time I wrote this response. Like you said she was taking May away for medical treatment. What were you expecting Richard to do? He had no real medical facilities to treat her with because, OMG, they were in a civilian house. Kind of hard to treat such a major condition without the proper equipment.

I’m a pretty good mechanic but if my engine throws a rod noone would expect me to be able to fix it without getting it to a garage with proper equipment.

[gliderpilotgirl]

I want to make it clear that I have NOT read the issue at the time I wrote this response. Like you said she was taking May away for medical treatment. What were you expecting Richard to do? He had no real medical facilities to treat her with because, OMG, they were in a civilian house. Kind of hard to treat such a major condition without the proper equipment.

Ok..it's not so much that he didn't do anything..he appeared to not be capable.
Sue walked in and asked him if she had had a heart attack or a stroke..had he been using the first aid kit. etc.. all stuff he could have done. No, he said he didn't know. As a trained doctor, he should have been able to tell the diff between them, or at least try to to help. Heck, I could tell the diff and I know what to do and I only have first aid training!

[ultimatespyder20]

Ok, I haven't read this issue yet either. Hope to God it gets here by the end of the week, but from what I read it's sounds pretty cool. MJ transforming into some goblin was expected. The whole fight with Gwen doesn't sound to ba either, but what about the next arc. If the whole "Death of the Goblin" is abouth Mj dieing, well idk. I don't really think that would be a route to take. I mean think of the story possiblitys now. MJ is now some goblin creature, this could rly show some stories where maybe so runs away, and tries to figure out her life. Really show her facing this problem. I mean why not write about this instead of just ending it. Still, I haven't read this issue yet, hope it gets here soon.

Alec

[Shadow ES]

I hope MJ isn't the goblin who dies in the next arc, but then I don't really want any of them to die yet. They still have a lot of potential in them, and their death would just be cheapened by the knowledge that it'll be retconed before issue 200.

[ultimatespyder20]

I hope MJ isn't the goblin who dies in the next arc, but then I don't really want any of them to die yet. They still have a lot of potential in them, and their death would just be cheapened by the knowledge that it'll be retconed before issue 200.

I also feel the same way. I hope Bendis just doesn't kill off one of the three coolest and biggest characters in the series when they have been barely been used. They have so much story for them. It would just be stupid.

Alec

[gliderpilotgirl]

I also feel the same way. I hope Bendis just doesn't kill off one of the three coolest and biggest characters in the series when they have been barely been used. They have so much story for them. It would just be stupid.

Alec

At least we seem to all be agreed on that. Who else do you consider big 3?
Gwen or May? I am assuming Peter is the first. For some reason, I think Bendis may be banking on our reactions to this. He mentioned somewhere that he had to talk his editor off a fence on one thing..I am BETTING it's MJ. For some reason, Death of the Goblin MJ may be too obvious for him. I still hope it's Norman. Well..on the bright side..if this doesn't kill her, and she looks normal um, normally..any guys to attack her would be freakin' suicidal!

[Red Lotus]

I like this issue alot. I hope Gwen isn't a clone but the real deal. Who knows what Ultimate Carnage did to her. So maybe it is her. I dont want Richard to die at the end of this arc. I think they can do so many stories with him. Is Mj now the Ultimate Goblin Queen. Don't know. I don't think this is going to end good for her. They may think she back to normal but they thought the same thing with Harry.

[caney]

This story arc has really thrown me for a loop. I have no clue what to expect next, which is fun, but it's so crazy it almost feels like a what if? story.

Obviously Fury knows more than anyone else what is actually going on, but I was very confused about his actions. I don't see how taking Peter into custody can really be his top priority, when he talks about this being "the biggest genetic disaster we've had since the Hulk became the Hulk." Shouldn't he be going after the people responsible for all the cloning? How is locking Peter up going to help the situation?

I'm not sure I like having Mary Jane turn into whatever she turned into, but I must admit it will make a great scene when Peter has to take her down.

Also, is it just my issue or did everyone else have an Ultimate Power preview split up panels that stretched across two pages? I didn't even realize it until after flipping passed the preview.

[wolp]

No way this is the crappiest USM issue ever...I take the Doctor Strange issue as worse than this anyday. This was a solid issue.