Murderous Villains

**Peter Parker** · 10-20-2006, 01:10 PM

Who do you think are the most murderous, most cruel and the most malevolent villains, ever in the Spider-Man series (whether is Spectacular, ASM or Ultimate, etc.)?

My first pick (not placing him at the top of the list though) would be Mornius since I'm reading MTU #4, the review anyway. He murdered a kid named "Jacob" a few weeks before MTU #4 (Jacob was murdered in #3 of MTU) where he struck again (at two robbers this time) and boy, that scream of that robber just says how terrifying Morbius is.

I would had place Venom in the list but Carnage is a much worst kind of a murderer because, he was already a murderer (his real name is Cassedy though the spelling might be wrong) before the symbiotic got him! Making him a very violent and powerful villain, which is very scary if you think about it. Once, I saw a review about Carnage and it revealed that Carnage has also commited a few murders as well and most of them, if not all, are gruesome.

But what about you guys?

**RedShark92** · 10-20-2006, 01:57 PM

Um....

Green Goblin (Norman)
Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
Carnage

All for different reasons and in different ways...

**Peter Parker** · 10-20-2006, 02:01 PM

Heh, at least the Green Goblin is a better goblin than Hobby (better as in not totally inhuman like Hobby).

**Loestal** · 10-20-2006, 02:10 PM

1. Carnage
2. Kingpin (not directly by his hands but regardless)
3. Demogoblin
4. Venom
5. Kaine

**Peter Parker** · 10-20-2006, 02:17 PM

I would had think Kingpin as a very ruthless person. He's kind of like Magneto, willing to do anything at all cost (cept when he was confronting his son back then).

**geHuC** · 10-20-2006, 02:55 PM

1. Carnage in "maximum carnage" there was so many killed people :D
2. Green Goblin (norman) not that he killed a lot of pepole but he killed important ones :rolleyes:

**Loestal** · 10-20-2006, 03:39 PM

I based my list on who has killed, and who is most likely to kill. Kingpin and Demogoblin are kind of a tie honestly, but I would guess Kingpin has been responsible for more deaths.

**Nosgoth Phantom** · 10-20-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Loestal

I based my list on who has killed, and who is most likely to kill. Kingpin and Demogoblin are kind of a tie honestly, but I would guess Kingpin has been responsible for more deaths.

Don't forget Demogoblin died saving a boy's life.

**Loestal** · 10-20-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Nosgoth Phantom

Don't forget Demogoblin died saving a boy's life.

Yeah I know, he only killed "sinners"...but that was ALOT of people.

**phantom1592** · 10-21-2006, 04:41 AM

Bullseye.

I know he's a Daredevil villian, but he has made appearances before. THat is coldhearted killer.

Carnage may edge him out,

**Peter Parker** · 10-21-2006, 05:33 AM

Heh, Carnage can out-kill Bullseye any day IMHO. :)

**phantom1592** · 10-21-2006, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Peter Parker

Heh, Carnage can out-kill Bullseye any day IMHO. :)

Yeah your right. but the costume helps. ;)

**Jeff-E** · 10-21-2006, 06:59 AM

I'm running with Carnage for a couple of reasons, first most villains can be bought off or reasoned with, his bat-$#it crazy mind cant be. Also, well, because I loved 90's comics they had more plot holes but for the most part they were more fun.

**a-spidey** · 10-21-2006, 08:10 AM

i remember carnage from "maximum carnage".

even when i can't remember the body count at the moment

**666andahalf** · 10-21-2006, 07:14 PM

Carnage is the king in this debate hands down, along with his crew from Maximum Carnage (including Demogoblin). I think out of the others however, Hobgoblin is definitly the most heartless.

Also, Spider-Carnage from the '90's Cartoon series, he was going to destroy the entire Spider-Man multi-verse. That guy was a dick.

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