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    I was reading Some Marvel this week. Remarking to myself how thematically similar some things in Civil War are to Infinite Crisis or more directly the road to Infinite Crisis. Seems to me that DC and Marvel have analogous characters for the most part, but the one I can't place is an analog for Mr Fantastic? I can't think of a Dc Comics character that is a "Science Hero" I know Challengers of the unknown was similar to the FF but Who is the DCU's resident genius?

    Is there anyone in the DCU who is on par in brains and scientific know how with Reed Richards?

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    I was thinking about this the other day and it had me stumped. I know there are a few characters who are supposed to be science-based, but none of them really show the knack for invention that Reed has. If I had to pick a parallel I'd probably say Mr. Terrific, although he's not nearly as intelligent as Reed (but he IS considered a genius). You have The Atom as well, but again- no real genius there.

    There's got to be someone else, but whoever that is their name escapes me at this point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiJack
    I was thinking about this the other day and it had me stumped. I know there are a few characters who are supposed to be science-based, but none of them really show the knack for invention that Reed has. If I had to pick a parallel I'd probably say Mr. Terrific, although he's not nearly as intelligent as Reed (but he IS considered a genius). You have The Atom as well, but again- no real genius there.

    There's got to be someone else, but whoever that is their name escapes me at this point...
    Good to know I am not the only one thinking of this.. I don't know if there is one. Maybe Adam Strange?

    Maybe there isn't one. Also on a side not, as far as analog characters go I would put Iron Man as currently analogous to Batman. Both smart, both run big companies, only one is everything a Human could be. The other is everything technology could be.

    Currently neither seem terribly trusting.

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    I'm a kind of science type person....mmnnnhhh...flavin.

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    It seems to me as if the DC heroes tend to specialize more, with only a few generalists.

    I would go for Mr Terrific and the chief from Doom Patrol as the closest parallel I can think of, off hand.

    It also seems that the villains tend to be intellectually stronger.
    T.O Morrow. Professor Ivo, Sivana, Luthor, Ultra Humanite, Per Degation, Vandal Savage etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Danny
    Good to know I am not the only one thinking of this.. I don't know if there is one. Maybe Adam Strange?

    Maybe there isn't one. Also on a side not, as far as analog characters go I would put Iron Man as currently analogous to Batman. Both smart, both run big companies, only one is everything a Human could be. The other is everything technology could be.

    Currently neither seem terribly trusting.
    Two things work against Strange, at least for me:

    1) He's a human on an alien world (or at least he was) surrouded by high tech.

    2) He was last seen down in the dumps and destitute (during Planet Heist, which was pretty damn good).

    He's shown some flashes of insight, but never the raw creative genius of someone who's highly intelligent.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paragon
    It also seems that the villains tend to be intellectually stronger.
    T.O Morrow. Professor Ivo, Sivana, Luthor, Ultra Humanite, Per Degation, Vandal Savage etc.
    TOTALLY agree with that- the villains definitely have an edge in the smarts department, which makes sense- every hero needs a 'Mad Scientist' type to go up against.

    This just hit me- wouldn't Batman be considered a 'science hero'? After all, he's got the inventions, the detective skills, and the superior intelligence (hell, he's got plans to take down the entire DCU, both heroes and villains), so shouldn't he be up there?

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    dr magnus?

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    Hellloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    THE ATOM!

    The new Atom series is all about Atom being a scientist.

    Also, the Challengers of the Unknown, and idea Kirby later recycled for Fantastic Four.

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    Adam Strange, Captain Comet fits the bill ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat-Mite
    Hellloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    THE ATOM!

    The new Atom series is all about Atom being a scientist.

    Also, the Challengers of the Unknown, and idea Kirby later recycled for Fantastic Four.
    I named The Atom, but do you really think he's on par with Reed? That was the question if I read it correctly...

    If we were just talking science-based guys, then you'd have to include Barry Allen and a host of others- what MacD wanted was someone who directly compared to Mr. Fantastic's genius and creativity.
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    I don't think he has to be on par with anybody to be a Science Hero, just to have science and the life of a scientists as integral parts of his theme. Atom basically, as portrayed in the current series, is an explorer scientist who fights crime with his powers and scientific principles.

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    The Atom, without a doubt. Doc Magnus as well.....

    J'onn and the GLs (Hal and John, moreso than Guy) also seem to be go-to guys for sciencey things...

    Dr. Mid-Nite and Mr. Terrific too.

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    Dr Magnus I think fits the criteria. I haven't read much if any metal men but he seems pretty damn smart and creative.

    The Atom (Ray Palmer) I would consider closer to Hank Pym. Smart guy, but not even close to Reed.

    Batman for me is still Iron Man. Using technology to augment his abilities, but not the abstract creative that Reed is.

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    Mr. Terrific is almost certainly the closest. Most of the others have a specific area of expertise that they stay in (other than Batman, who inevitably knows what he needs to know, but isn't primarily written as a scientist). Ted Knight (at least as he was written in the Robinson Starman series) was another good comparison.

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    Of course it's the Atom. This is incredibly easy.
    Slayven ftw.

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