Cable & Deadpool #32 *spoilers*

[bulbasteve]

Fabian really blew me away with this issue.

Starting off with your usual witty recap page (god am I getting sick of the same one over and over in these tie-ins). We get into some good ol' fashioned fighting between Wade and Cable, ending in Cable's "gravimetric" (that is SO made up) field coming online and Deadpool being stuck in midair...about to have the Backstreet Boys beemed in his head (EVIL, EVIL MAN!)

The day is saved (I guess) as the Secret Service starts to fire at Cable, though not you know...hurting him cause of GRAVITY! The President tells them to hold their fire and that Cable was probably only here to talk. They get into a nice and *gasp* reasonable argument about the law. Cable tells the President he wasn't elected and doesn't think he is better than anyone else, but someone has to lead and he hopes the President will follow him. The President calls him to the carpet saying that that right there is WHY we need registration, and they regulate nukes so why not people with that kind of power (excellent visual of the Secret Service being held in midair while he says this, then Cable releasing them). Cable goes on to say that this will only keep on eye on him, but when they start telling him what to do and putting a gun to their head "rebellion becomes self-defense". They part ways with each one having the other actually consider their points *double gasp* Cable bodyslides with Wade out.

Flash over to Providence where media reaction is taking place (supposedly an LMD of the President was programmed to provoke Cable...riiiight). Got some screens with McNivens art on there too, what's the 2nd one with the hippies in front of the white house? I don't remember that. Those guys are bla blaing about Nate never losing his cool.

And they bodyslid over to One World Church in France. Where Cable kicks his ass and ties him up with duct tape again. Deadpool gets free and threatens some people in the church, but WAIT Cable was broadcasting this the whole time to give registration a bad name. They bodyslide back to Manhattan, Cable gives Deadpool a chance to finish him off but Wade tells him he won the battle and not the war and they part ways.

The best stuff though were some of Deadpools lines, no not the funny ones even but serious ones! Best being a scene where he actually loses the yellow text balloon for a panel (wha..huh!?). He says: "Yeah, Nate, I get it, Okay? I get all of it. We're not all totally stupid, you know. We do what we think is best but good ol' Nate Askani'son Geshundeiht, boy savior from the future he always --ALWAYS -- knows what's best. Playing the part of the idiot is fun most of the time Nate, but you know when it stops being a yuk-fest--? When you start believing it's true!"

Another one: "What mistake? For the first time in ten years I get the chance to be legit -- to make a difference in something that matters -- and you took it away!"

Yeah the "funny" comic blows out of the water all the so called serious ones this issue.

[Deadpooligan]

The best stuff though were some of Deadpools lines, no not the funny ones even but serious ones! Best being a scene where he actually loses the yellow text balloon for a panel (wha..huh!?).

He says: "Yeah, Nate, I get it, Okay? I get all of it. We're not all totally stupid, you know. We do what we think is best but good ol' Nate Askani'son Geshundeiht, boy savior from the future he always --ALWAYS -- knows what's best. Playing the part of the idiot is fun most of the time Nate, but you know when it stops being a yuk-fest--? When you start believing it's true!"

Another one: "What mistake? For the first time in ten years I get the chance to be legit -- to make a difference in something that matters -- and you took it away!"

Yeah the "funny" comic blows out of the water all the so called serious ones this issue.

I also noticed Cable spoke with a fading yellow speech bubble near the speech bubble mistake you mentioned.

Yay for accidental editing ventriloquism!

An excellent issue, the serious tone it took here was great (though I'm still a fan of the funny). Writing is still top notch, love the character dynamic, but Staz Johnson's pencils aren't as spectacular; they kinda bother my eyes a bit. I'm looking forward to Reilly Brown coming back back for the next few ishes; he does C&DP almost as good as Patrick Zircher.

Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that they're still on opposing sides. I was hoping for at least one of them to switch. I think Wade's gonna have more than he bargained for now that Cable's an international political leader.

Yoiks, I can't wait for the next issue!

[Starscream]

Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that they're still on opposing sides. I was hoping for at least one of them to switch. I think Wade's gonna have more than he bargained for now that Cable's an international political leader.

Yoiks, I can't wait for the next issue!

i think that might change soon.
Deadpool made a big deal out of the president ordering him to kill cable.
but when it came down to it and when Wade had the chance he didnt pull the trigger.

As Cable said: now we finaly both know wich side we are on.
i think Cable gave Wade something to think about in this issue.
Like when Blackbox put the entire convo between Cable and deadpool on the internet, and after that Cable showed the public response of the President to Wade. I think this is gona make him rethink his decision to work for the goverment as a Hero hunter.


btw the first page was great.
init Deadpool retels how Civil war etc all got started in his own unique way.
The way he tells is is like ur watching some Post-Apocalyptical movie and in the first 5 minuts of the movie they talk about how years ago alot of bad stuff happened.

ps. do hope Deadpool switches sides and we see him ina big ass fight wich he wins as i agree with what wikipedia says.

[mrc1214]

Great writing by Nicieza. The were both very serious about which sides they were taking and he wrote that good. I cant wait to see what happens next im guessing we're going to see another throwdown.

[bulbasteve]

i think that might change soon.
Deadpool made a big deal out of the president ordering him to kill cable.
but when it came down to it and when Wade had the chance he didnt pull the trigger.

As Cable said: now we finaly both know wich side we are on.
i think Cable gave Wade something to think about in this issue.
Like when Blackbox put the entire convo between Cable and deadpool on the internet, and after that Cable showed the public response of the President to Wade. I think this is gona make him rethink his decision to work for the goverment as a Hero hunter.

Did he actually order Deadpool to KILL him? Anyway the LMD-in-Chief kinda rescinded the order when he told everyone to stand down and let Cable talk.

Anyway I just don't think after the issue the government will LET Deadpool work for the government. And if he does I think he will take a second look at blindly following orders more than anything else, that was Cable's good point to the President before and the video he made showed how bad it can get when people become over-zealous in following their duty. Deadpool will probably be more critical, but I don't think he would give up on the government if they let him back, since he does seem to genuenly want to really reform his ways.

What I really want to know is what Cables gameplan from here on out is. He played it very smart by going the President, then even going to the media... far smarter than Cap has been. I wonder what else he will try or if he will have a "wait and see" attitude to see if maybe he is wrong and this won't lead to a bad future.

[Starscream]

Did he actually order Deadpool to KILL him? Anyway the LMD-in-Chief kinda rescinded the order when he told everyone to stand down and let Cable talk.

yup he did (issue 31).
He ordered deadpool to aprehend Cable DEAD OR ALIVE (please dont come with a reply saying that he didnt literally say kill as its the same thing).
and he made those last 3 words very clear, further the president knows cable wouldnt have surrendered.
Btw ya its a LMD but it was controlled by the president so it can be said that everything the LMD said were the presidents words.

and no u dont cancel an order by saying: stand down and let him talk.
By saying stand down he simply tells them to stop shooting (as it didnt work due ot his forcefield) it didnt cancel his order ot aprehend him.
and the fact remains that the president said DEAD OR ALIVE.

[bulbasteve]

yup he did (issue 31).
He ordered deadpool to aprehend Cable DEAD OR ALIVE (please dont come with a reply saying that he didnt literally say kill as its the same thing).
and he made those last 3 words very clear, further the president knows cable wouldnt have surrendered.
Btw ya its a LMD but it was controlled by the president so it can be said that everything the LMD said were the presidents words.

and no u dont cancel an order by saying: stand down and let him talk.
By saying stand down he simply tells them to stop shooting (as it didnt work due ot his forcefield) it didnt cancel his order ot aprehend him.
and the fact remains that the president said DEAD OR ALIVE.

It really isn't, OR ALIVE does mean...OR ALIVE...right? It doesn't mean DEAD or DEAD.

Anyway I thought the LMD thing was spin control, not really that there actually was one (and if there was the argument presented was it was malfunctioning, so saying that it was controlled by the president doesn't work). He said to stand down and that if Cable came here to hurt him he would have already, that certainly seem to say that the order to kill isn't there anymore since he is saying Cable is NOT trying to kill him.

[Deadpooligan]

It really isn't, OR ALIVE does mean...OR ALIVE...right? It doesn't mean DEAD or DEAD.

To a guy named Deadpool, what do you think he'll hear from that? lol.

Think about it. This is a guy who brutally assaulted a teacher when he thought he saw "Deadpool must die!" on a chalkboard. (It really said "Deadly viruses invade a pool and organisms must either adapt or die!"

[Brian M.]

This is why I love this book. Fabian does a wonderful job w/ the epic feel. He gets both characters and his serious Wade stuff is really great. I love this series and this tie-in is really good for it. The Cable/Bush stuff was great too.

[Loestal]

I, like others here, really enjoyed seeing Deadpool actually believe in something. He seemed to be genuinly happy that he had a place, a legit place in the world. It is the first time I have ever realy seen Deadpool in that light and it was kind of touching to me.

[slaydo]

Cable totally rules with his gravimetric powers. They're fast on their way to becoming as good as the world wide Telekinesis...well not as good, but damn good in their own way.

He owned the president and he owned the Secret Service and the Marine tool boys that tried to shoot em up with their little usless ak-47s.

It was great to see the White House try to lie and say it wasn't the president...just like the real white house has lied about the Weapons of Mass Destruction for years.

Cable totally played the President and even little Wadie Wilson, from start to finish.......like Irene said, he NEVER loses his cool!!!!!!!!!!

I think Fabs run on Cable and Deadpool will go down as the most defining for the character, even more so than his creatore Liefeld, because he's created something more than just a gun toting soldier from the future.

And I love it.

I love it!

I love it!

Cable is showing just why he's listed in the Civil War files as the man who can bring down the whole Reg side with his brilliant leadership.

And all it cost was a manipulation of Wade....

Sad true, and it cut to see Deadpool's chance to be legit be turned around him, but he was trying to turn on Nate...so turn about was fair play...

And damn it was well done.

Fabs, I don't care if people are saying Invincible is the best comic out, Cable and Deadpool holds that title now and forever. It even trumps your Thunderbolts by far IMHO.

Until Deadpool joins the Gay Lakes Champions, make mine Cable and Deadpool!!

P.S. Fabs-Action Comics 843...Superman to aliens....we'll smack you up!....it's hilarious, who came up with that one?

[slaydo]

Fabs, any chance of Cable and Deadpool going daily? If it did, it would totally rock. I know it would mean a lot of work on your part, but I'm sure you'd be up to it, and it would really would help me get through the week.

[Deadpooligan]

Until Deadpool joins the Gay Lakes Champions, make mine Cable and Deadpool!!

They're only 20% gay and 100% hilarious. They must need a respect thread, badly.

Fabs, any chance of Cable and Deadpool going daily? If it did, it would totally rock. I know it would mean a lot of work on your part, but I'm sure you'd be up to it, and it would really would help me get through the week.

Might head might explode with the awesomeness.

But the book already has trouble with regular artists now that Zircher's left. 30 ishes a month? *gasp* I shudder to think.

[Doom Hammer]

This is why I love this book. Fabian does a wonderful job w/ the epic feel. He gets both characters and his serious Wade stuff is really great. I love this series and this tie-in is really good for it. The Cable/Bush stuff was great too.

Agreed. I had some major complaints about the representation of Bush in the last issue (and I'm not exactly a big fan of the president), but this issue fixed it in a very smart way. I can definitely see the President pushing Cable's buttons, provoking him to get a reaction. Plus the line that Cable's attempts to make the White House look bad failed was, purely and simply, funny.

This was a very good issue, and it raises some interesting points. Cable is as much of -- if not more of --a manipulative bastard as Tony Stark. Now Cable hasn't gone as far as cloning or illegally holding prisoners, but carrying out a coup de etat, inciting a worldwide (if not short-lived) panic, attempting to gain a nearly-religious following by staging his own sacrifice (or at least planning to make himself a martyr), and generally manipulating the hell out of everyone around him are not uncommon character examples. So I'm glad he didn't take a stand against Tony on similar grounds. I'm glad he doesn;t reject the idea of registration altogether -- he's the voice of moderation, in a lot of ways. But I have to wonder -- no, assume -- as to whether he's got a couple more tricks up his sleeve. I'm liking Cable for the same reasons I'm liking Tony, so I'd like to see that angle more often.

As Deadpool goes, I don't know. I'm not entirely sure where this loyalty to the government is coming from. He's a military man, yes, but -- and it's been a while since I've read his origin -- I thought he was affiliated with the Canadian army. What with the Weapon X, Departmen H, and all. But I could be wrong. Regardless, I'd have thought he'd be a bit more wary of an official government position. It's what he joined up for years ago, to be a hero, and he ended up as a prisoner, torture victim, and, well, crazy-guy.

I understand his desire to be legit, though. He's always wanted to be a hero without being a pansie and without knowing how, so when an opportunity like this drops in his lap where a whooole lot of people are saying "you can kick ass and be a good guy, now", I can see him jumping at that. Though I'd like to have seen a bit more inner-monolgue and reflection in that respect. This reminds me a lot of "Dead Reckoning", and I think Deadpool could've broken from his usual intentional wierdness to come to some profound conclusions. And he did this, obviously, and it was really thrilling to see him doing his very best to beat the hell out of Cable, but as a huge fan of the Kelly stuff I think it'd have been cool to see some of his past choices mentioned. "Dead Reckoning" is comparable in that it put Deadpool in a position of authority, working for the system, ultimately switching sides and choosing free will over standardized bliss and...well, relative safety. The story isn't over yet, however. (The story ARC is over, but the conflcit is far from resolved). Anyway, I have such an interest in this story and the choices Deadpool makes because it's the most compelling point he can be viewed from -- torn between basically being a bad guy, and his desire to be a good guy. And with a government stamp, to boot! He's been in this position before, and Fabian's doing a great job of following up on his past characterization.

Anyway, THIS is the character I love. This conflicted anti-hero with the dangerous sense of humor covering his deep-rooted psychological issues.

[Nomad]

They're only 20% gay and 100% hilarious. They must need a respect thread, badly.



Might head might explode with the awesomeness.

But the book already has trouble with regular artists now that Zircher's left. 30 ishes a month? *gasp* I shudder to think.

seconded x2

And I swear somebody has said "gravimetric" on Star Trek. Btw, didn't FabNic create deadpool, or did I misread something somewhere?