NYC proposes banning Krispy Kreme doughnuts

[Slam_Bradley]

Yes, I get that. But why does it apply here? Trans fats aren't detectable in taste. This isn't smoking or alcohol, where you get a positive (but unhealthy) boost from it. With trans fats you get nothing! You'd never know it wasn't there! It's the equivalent of banning yellow #5 from foods and drinks - it doesn't mean anything.

In addition to what Loren had to say about the taste issue, Trans Fats increase both shelf life and change the amount of refrigeration needed. Also they are significantly cheaper than animal based fats and there is the whole religious/vegetarian issue of using animal fats.

Maybe we should allow adults to decide how they want to eat instead of legislating it.

[Ed Cunard]

Worried as much about drug dealers and the homeless as he did about people having A Double Decker ooey Gooey Krispy reame Burger (Yes there is a Ball park that sells one 1500 Calories I think) NYC would be a Utopia :rolleyes:

There would still be too many liberals, though.

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[Dreadstar]

There would still be too many liberals, though.

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Cull them.

[phoenixrising]

You *do* realize that this is precisely the same argument behind the idea of banning those cigarettes you enjoy, don't you?

Yeah, but it isn't, actually. Trans fats are not some sort of recreational life choice - they are an undetectable poison in our food. This is a production method - not a particular product purchase choice. I see this is a big difference - and one the FDA should have been all over awhile ago.

I think everyone's trying to stretch this into being like the smoking bans to whip up support against it - when it actually has very little in common. To me, this is not taking responsbility away from individuals in making their nutritional choices - but rather forcing corporations to take the responsibility to make non-poisonous foods by simply changing their production process.

[howyadoin]

Cull them.

Just feed them lots of donuts.

[Jeff Brady]

You’ve had Tato-Nut donuts before?

Oh, sorry, I misread your post. I was swept up in furor and outrage.

KK uses potato flour as well, so I loves the preciouses. Dunkin' sucks.

[EdContradictory]

Sounds nice on the surface..........


......but eventually people will say "Stop producing food with calories in them!" and laws will be passed doing just that.

Only in paranoid bizarro-world.

Then we're eating gov't approved rations and anyone eating other types of food are hunted down in the streets and re-educated in Guantanamo-like prisons.

Only in paranoid bizarro-world.

This is what happens when we give 'em a little bit of rope: they'll find a way to hang us with it eventually... :p

Only in paranoid bizarro-world.



This is akin to regulating the meat packing industry or banning lead in paint.

Actually, it's EXACTLY like banning lead in paint.

[Ed Cunard]

KK uses potato flour as well, so I loves the preciouses. Dunkin' sucks.

Blasphemy.

Yeah, but it isn't, actually. Trans fats are not some sort of recreational life choice - they are an undetectable poison in our food. This is a production method - not a particular product purchase choice. I see this is a big difference - and one the FDA should have been all over awhile ago.

I think everyone's trying to stretch this into being like the smoking bans to whip up support against it - when it actually has very little in common. To me, this is not taking responsbility away from individuals in making their nutritional choices - but rather forcing corporations to take the responsibility to make non-poisonous foods by simply changing their production process.

Technically, though, aren't caffeine and alcohol poisons as well? Someone nutritionally smarter than me can answer that, I hope. Really, anything not taken in moderation is "bad for you."

[Typo Lad]

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that was a MINOR point in regards to them giving us a "healthy" alternative. Like saccharine.

I don't think so.

I could get behind that, though only because it would necessitate the return of sugar-sweetened Coca-Cola.

Live near an area with a Jewish population, then wait for Passover. The Kosher for Passover Coke is Sugar-Sweetened.

If you like, I can buy you a bottle next Passover.

Worried as much about drug dealers and the homeless as he did about people having A Double Decker ooey Gooey Krispy reame Burger (Yes there is a Ball park that sells one 1500 Calories I think) NYC would be a Utopia :rolleyes:

That's a silly argument. He can't be concerned about the health and physical welbwing of his constutiants?

Now if it's his PLACE? Dunno.

[Ed Cunard]

Live near an area with a Jewish population, then wait for Passover. The Kosher for Passover Coke is Sugar-Sweetened.

If you like, I can buy you a bottle next Passover.

Make a mental note to add me to that list, Mr. I Know Where To Get The Good Shit.

[Dreadstar]

... Mr. I Know Where To Get The Good Shit.

Wait, I thought that was Howy?

[Slam_Bradley]

I find the characterization of Trans Fats to be "poison" to be interesting. The studies show that there is an increased incidence of Coronary disease with increased consumption. So, it is unhealthy. So are lots of other things we eat or otherwise ingest, for example, cigarettes. I think characterizing it as poison is rather disingenuous.

[Typo Lad]

In addition to what Loren had to say about the taste issue, Trans Fats increase both shelf life and change the amount of refrigeration needed. Also they are significantly cheaper than animal based fats and there is the whole religious/vegetarian issue of using animal fats.

There are non-trans fat, non-dairy, vegitarian shortnings available. I use them in my home. Even Cricso, which used to basically be Trans Fat in a can, has a non-Trans Fat formula now that tastes exactly the same.

Maybe we should allow adults to decide how they want to eat instead of legislating it.

Sorry, but just like there are laws for second hand smoke, there should be laws against trans fats.

Why?

Because nursing mothers who eat foods high in Trans Fats have a higher trans fat content in their breast milk, thus passing it on to the baby.

[Ed Cunard]

Wait, I thought that was Howy?

Weed, schmeed. I wants the Coke with the sugar.

EDIT: But not Coke cut with sugar.

[Tages]

I think everyone's trying to stretch this into being like the smoking bans to whip up support against it - when it actually has very little in common. To me, this is not taking responsbility away from individuals in making their nutritional choices - but rather forcing corporations to take the responsibility to make non-poisonous foods by simply changing their production process.

You're still not getting the point. If I want to eat poison, who has the right to tell me I can't? And if corporations want to give me what I want, while harming no one except possibly myself, who has the right to tell them they can't?