This Vulcan dude, where does he fall?

**Kid Quick Foots** · 09-27-2006, 04:43 AM

ok, so i havent been keeping up with Marvel as much as i use to, so im just now finding out about this Vulcan dude, the third Summers brother, and from all reports he is one bad m.f., saying he is "beyond omega level", and he is on par with galactus in terms of power. So, is he the strongest psi? where would he fall on this list?...

Franklin Richards(fully powered)
Phoenix II
Prof. X
Jean Grey(with Phoenix)
Jean Grey(without Phoenix)
Cable
X-Man(even though he is dead)
Shadow King
Mr. Sinister
Legion

i know there are others, but its early and i cant think right now, feel free to add as you see fit.

**Xanrn** · 09-27-2006, 05:16 AM

He is not a Psyker at all.

He is a Summers brother, Energy Manipulation is his thing.

**Barnaby** · 09-27-2006, 05:31 AM

That "beyond Omega level" was a mistake, already corrected. He's just Omega level... nothing can be beyond something that already means limitless...

Power wise, the guy manipulates energy, but i doubt he can be anywhere near Galactus in terms of power, not even Phoenix, maybe one step ahead of good old Mags.

**fishtaco** · 09-27-2006, 05:32 AM

Flat on his face.

Oh, sorry.

**Titan76** · 09-27-2006, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Kid Quick Foots

ok, so i havent been keeping up with Marvel as much as i use to, so im just now finding out about this Vulcan dude, the third Summers brother, and from all reports he is one bad m.f., saying he is "beyond omega level", and he is on par with galactus in terms of power. So, is he the strongest psi? where would he fall on this list?...

First Vulcan in no way is on pair with Galactus. He is also not a telepath either, he manipulates energy so he wouldn't be put on the list as a psi. And he isn't beyond Omega level either. Even though it that was said in the Deadly Genesis Brubaker(who wrote it) has said that was a mistake. He is just an Omega level mutant.

If you want to learn everything about Vulcan just read Deadly Genesis and start reading Uncanny X-men #475 on up which is where the story counties from.

**Barnaby** · 09-27-2006, 05:39 AM

By the way... i hope Gladiator will kick his @ss! :evilsmile

**Sheldon** · 09-27-2006, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Barnaby

By the way... i hope Gladiator will kick his @ss! :evilsmile

Gladiator is set to do some jobbing worse than his "loss" to Cannonball.

**Titan76** · 09-27-2006, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Sheldon

Gladiator is set to do some jobbing worse than his "loss" to Cannonball.

Gladiator didn't jobb to Cannonball, he was toying with him the whole fight(remember he stop Cannonball from pushing him in mid-flight with little effort) and when he went to punch Cannonball, Cannonball shield's where able to absorb it.

Now I very much doubt Gladiator used a planet-buster punch on Cannonball since his main reason for going to Earth was to get the X-men's help. He most likely put barely any effort into that punch but he was still surprise to see that Cannonball's force Field was able to block it, and when Gladiator ever doubts himself that's when his power levels go down.

**steve2275** · 09-27-2006, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by fishtaco

Flat on his face.

Oh, sorry.

wrong:p
its on his butt

**Sheldon** · 09-27-2006, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Titan76

Gladiator didn't jobb to Cannonball, he was toying with him the whole fight(remember he stop Cannonball from pushing him in mid-flight with little effort) and when he went to punch Cannonball, Cannonball shield's where able to absorb it.

Now I very much doubt Gladiator used a planet-buster punch on Cannonball since his main reason for going to Earth was to get the X-men's help. He most likely put barely any effort into that punch but he was still surprise to see that Cannonball's force Field was able to block it, and when Gladiator ever doubts himself that's when his power levels go down.

Yet quite a few people use this as an example to make Cannonball's power levels higher than it has any right to be.

All I know is that there is no way Glads is gonna come out of his fight with Vulcan looking anything more than a jobber.

**brundlefly** · 09-27-2006, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sheldon

Gladiator is set to do some jobbing worse than his "loss" to Cannonball.

I am not looking forward to Gladiator being used as "enhancement talent" again, this time to make Vulcan look more formidable. And the Cannonball fight's "he's holding back" argument (which is feasible) doesn't work here, unfortunately, since there's no reason that Glads would hold back against an invader like Vulcan.

**Titan76** · 09-27-2006, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Sheldon

Yet quite a few people use this as an example to make Cannonball's power levels higher than it has any right to be.

Mostly because they are hyping Cannonball up since he came out of the fight with the win or because they never actually saw the fight and just heard it and passed it along to others. And when someone says that Cannonball beat Gladiator and thus person who told them doesn't know how, their first thought is Gladiator jobb to him, which wasn't the case here.

All I know is that there is no way Glads is gonna come out of his fight with Vulcan looking anything more than a jobber.

The might be true but we will have to wait and see.

**For the Good of X** · 09-27-2006, 07:27 AM

Perhaps his entry in the soon to be/currently publishing Handbook to the MU will clarify this matter.

**Kid Quick Foots** · 09-27-2006, 08:47 AM

ok, but if you go to wikepedia they clearly state that he IS omega level and has TONS of psi power in addition to energy manipulation AND he is on par with galactus. now is wikipedea wrong?