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    Default Will Carrie Kelly ever become Robin?

    Just wondering if anyone thinks Carrie Kelly from Dark Knight Returns will ever make an appearence in regular continuity or ever take up the Robin mantle? Would this be a good thing? Should she be related to Steph or Grayson or Todd etc? How would you make her work IF at all?

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    I think she actually became Robin within the pages of DKR, so it's unlikely that she'll take it up within regular continuity due to the sheer amount of confusion. If she were to turn up it would seem as though DKR was being accepted as the inevitable outcome, which I doubt they would want, and even then it wouldn't make much sense as she becomes Robin in the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colossus34
    Just wondering if anyone thinks Carrie Kelly from Dark Knight Returns will ever make an appearence in regular continuity or ever take up the Robin mantle? Would this be a good thing? Should she be related to Steph or Grayson or Todd etc? How would you make her work IF at all?
    Of course she will. Because pretty much everyone writing superhero comics seems incapable of doing anything except strip-mining the past for ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pól Rua
    Of course she will. Because pretty much everyone writing superhero comics seems incapable of doing anything except strip-mining the past for ideas.
    Yeah, basically someone will come up say I have this idea someone else will say sounds good lets publish it, then your stuck with it, kind of like Jason Todd. I'm not against is return but I am against how it happened and what they have done with him since.

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    Carrie Kelly lived roughly 20 years in the future, in a world where Bruce Wayne was 55. She was a teenager, so she shouldn't even be alive yet in "modern DCU continuity."

    I could live with the idea of having her birth occur as part of a Batman story, someday. I would not want to write that story myself. I would not feel that it was a stunning achievement if such a story were published. But I wouldn't necessarily scream bloody murder either. Ideally, a writer would do that story and reveal at the end that the surname of the expectant parents (who had been rescued from dire peril by Batman) was Kelly, and then he'd have the mother say in the final page, "I think we'll name her Carrie!" in an effort to show us How Frightfully Clever he was to contrive such a sneaky Surprise Ending!

    Then, having gotten that out of his system, hopefully neither that writer nor any other Batman writer would ever write a story featuring Baby Carrie Kelly again, and those who didn't like the way that story had turned out could simply blot it out of their minds and pretend it never happened! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorendiac

    Then, having gotten that out of his system, hopefully neither that writer nor any other Batman writer would ever write a story featuring Baby Carrie Kelly again, and those who didn't like the way that story had turned out could simply blot it out of their minds and pretend it never happened! :)
    That would be a cool way to introduce the Kelly family somehow into current continuity. Maybe Carrie's father works for Bruce and ends up becoming a confidant or something.

    I forgot about the massive age difference between DKR but I wouldn't be apposed to a young or teenage Carrie being introduced as a protege of Tim Drake or hell maybe Todd decides he needs a Robin and takes in an orphan much like himself. Of course, Bruce finds out and decides to step in and stop him or something.

    I don't know why but I just LOVE the character of Carrie Kelly:D

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    Carries parents were pot smoking losers who didn't even notice she was gone until the next issue... it's like you guys don't even read the books sometimes.;)

    And honestly, I don't see Carrie as Robin in continuity anytime soon, or really, ever. At least I hope not, I'd rather DKR doesn't become continuity, and besides, all her stories have been told in Franks books.

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    I really don't think Kelly is such a great character, I mean she's okay, but I don't really see anything "special" about her.

    I hope this doesn't happen.

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    Yeah. I'm not quite getting this. We have Carrie being Robin in Dark Knight Returns. What more do you want? It's there. Leave it alone.

    The current Bat books are doing their thing. Why force Miller's vision on them? Plus nevermind that she becomes Catgirl in the sequel and I'm gonna keep pretending that it's (spoiler) Jason and not Dick who appears at the end of the book. Otherwise the sequel and the Dark Knight Returns series sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jam37wcc
    Yeah, basically someone will come up say I have this idea someone else will say sounds good lets publish it, then your stuck with it, kind of like Jason Todd. I'm not against is return but I am against how it happened and what they have done with him since.
    To be fair, if DC hadn't gotten cold feet at the very last moment about killing Dick Grayson, Jason Todd would be the only Nightwing, have his own book, as well as lead the Outsiders.

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    Actually, Carrie is my favorite of all the Robins. She is the only one who, for me, has never either reeked of the 'Useless Hostage' syndrome or the 'Little Know it All' Mary Sue characterization instead.

    Maybe in ten or fifteen years from now on.

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    Since Tim Drake did not exist when DKR was written, and doesn't seem to exist in either Dark Knight volume, I'd tend to see that as an entirely separate continuity. Although I did notice that Carrie's was one of the gravestones in Geoff Johns's Titans of Tomorrow arc.

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    Yes, Carrie will become Robin, and in fact, some writer will imply that Batman had planned it that way all along. Further, not only did Father Kelly work for Wayne Industries, as a fellow post suggested, but Bruce himself introduced the parents to each other, and then to marijuana, so their eventual neglegence inadvertantly creates the opportunity for Batman to "adopt" her. Carrie will find all of this out on her own and go rogue for a few issues before she mercifully forgives Bruce for his tragic inability to relate to the people he loves, and they will live happily ever after . . . until the Kellys, in a secret attempt to sell their daughter to the streets for pot money, try to win Carrie back, a tale which will be featured in a year-long maxi-crossover called "Sidekick Crisis." And yes, before you even ask, "SC" will reveal that Speedy is Carrie's cousin, and that drug abuse actually runs rampant in her family. Torn between her two worlds, she'll fight Crazy Quilt and surprisingly die, because by then Frank will get his wits about him and sue DC for retention of his creative properties. Pretty weird, huh? I read about it all in "Wizard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by karaokefanboy
    Yes, Carrie will become Robin, and in fact, some writer will imply that Batman had planned it that way all along. Further, not only did Father Kelly work for Wayne Industries, as a fellow post suggested, but Bruce himself introduced the parents to each other, and then to marijuana, so their eventual neglegence inadvertantly creates the opportunity for Batman to "adopt" her. Carrie will find all of this out on her own and go rogue for a few issues before she mercifully forgives Bruce for his tragic inability to relate to the people he loves, and they will live happily ever after . . . until the Kellys, in a secret attempt to sell their daughter to the streets for pot money, try to win Carrie back, a tale which will be featured in a year-long maxi-crossover called "Sidekick Crisis." And yes, before you even ask, "SC" will reveal that Speedy is Carrie's cousin, and that drug abuse actually runs rampant in her family. Torn between her two worlds, she'll fight Crazy Quilt and surprisingly die, because by then Frank will get his wits about him and sue DC for retention of his creative properties. Pretty weird, huh? I read about it all in "Wizard."

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    I think she looks cuter as Catgirl. But I don't think she should become part of continuity unless she travels back from the future as Catgirl to save Robin or something and doesn't reveal who she is to the characters.

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