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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewTheXenocide
    I hated it. It offended me both as a moviegoer and as a Christian. The first part because it sucked major ass. Anything that sucks as much as that offends me. The second part because it had no point. So, what. This guy got beat up. Whoop de doo.
    Your a Christian yet you didn't understand the purpose of why Jesus got beat up. Whatever.:rolleyes:

    If you actually understand the reason then maybe you wouldn't have hated it so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewTheXenocide
    I hated it. It offended me both as a moviegoer and as a Christian. The first part because it sucked major ass. Anything that sucks as much as that offends me. The second part because it had no point. So, what. This guy got beat up. Whoop de doo.
    Well, that's under-stating things a bit, isn't it? I mean, I'm not even Christian, yet I can presume to understand the importance of a movie that tells the story of the defining moment of the Christian faith to Christian movie-goers. I guess my point is, what were you expecting to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Atom
    Well, that's under-stating things a bit, isn't it? I mean, I'm not even Christian, yet I can presume to understand the importance of a movie that tells the story of the defining moment of the Christian faith to Christian movie-goers. I guess my point is, what were you expecting to see?
    I have a friend who is an Athiest and even he understands the importance of that crucifixion scene. I want to know, from the poster who posted that, what was it about that scene that you did not understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimShadow
    The book had a good concept and a good history behind how the events that happened that led to the events of the LOTR trilogy.

    It's just that the constant fanboyism from my friend then the unnecessary over-hype of the movie made me not interested in anything that has to do with LOTR.
    Yeah, I freely admit that part of the reason that I hate LotR like I do is because everyone always seems to be talking about how freakin' awesome it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewTheXenocide
    I hated it. It offended me both as a moviegoer and as a Christian. The first part because it sucked major ass. Anything that sucks as much as that offends me. The second part because it had no point. So, what. This guy got beat up. Whoop de doo.
    Uh, if you're a Christian, you would understand the importance of the portrayal of the whole reason behind what you claim your faith is.

    Jesus was flayed brutally and crucified so that your sins would be forgiven. That's the point of the film - it's a portrayal of Biblical scripture depicting the suffering of Jesus. If you don't understand that, are you sure you're a Christian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmore
    Uh, if you're a Christian, you would understand the importance of the portrayal of the whole reason behind what you claim your faith is.

    Jesus was flayed brutally and crucified so that your sins would be forgiven. That's the point of the film - it's a portrayal of Biblical scripture depicting the suffering of Jesus. If you don't understand that, are you sure you're a Christian?
    Agreed. The brutality of what happened to Jesus, what Jesus allowed himself to go through on our behalf, is kind of the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Atom
    I guess my point is, what were you expecting to see?
    Afterwards. I mean, no shit I know why he died and all that. But the movie protrayed none of that. Without the resurrection, it means little to nothing. Sure you can say that it is enough to show tha the died for the sins and all that, but then what would differentiate him from another martyr? Why is Church moreso packed on Easter than on Christmas? The Resurrection is the defining part of Jesus' story. Without portraying that, Passion was just some crappy....for the lack of a better term "snuff" film.

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    I absolutely love Fargo and Lost in Translation. I like The Blair Witch Project and Titanic.

    Citizen Kane, however, does nothing for me. And I'm not fond of Raging Bull either.

    And the brutality is not the point. The resurrection is the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewTheXenocide
    Afterwards. I mean, no shit I know why he died and all that. But the movie protrayed none of that. Without the resurrection, it means little to nothing. Sure you can say that it is enough to show tha the died for the sins and all that, but then what would differentiate him from another martyr? Why is Church moreso packed on Easter than on Christmas? The Resurrection is the defining part of Jesus' story. Without portraying that, Passion was just some crappy....for the lack of a better term "snuff" film.
    I dont consider this movie to be a blatant "snuff film" since Jesus did infact got resurrected in the end of the movie. If it was a supposed "snuff film" then Jesus would have stayed dead in the movie.
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    Well because the Passion is really about His suffering and death. Also, by downplaying the Ressurrection, it was there I believe at the end, and focusing on more human moments in Jesus's life it turns Christ into a person that we can relate to. We can imagine his pain and truly understand the depth of his suffering on our behalf. Jesus was after all the Son of God and the Son of Man.

    That same could be said of Schindler's List. I think had the brutality of that film been toned down that it would've lost some of it's impact.

    Aside from the philosophical and religious messages of the film they just did a wonderful job of recreating that place and time in a believable way. Everything felt genuine. About the only time I was pulled out of the movie was when they did that BttF style joke with Jesus and Mary and the modern style dining table and chairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Apodaca
    I would ask the same question about Titannic and About Schmidt.


    I hated Sin City.

    I find Dazed and Confused to be pretty boring. I'm also apathetic towards the John Hughes stuff.
    Two of them were nominated for Best Picture, one of em one.

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    I want to second Animal House. I just don't get it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewTheXenocide
    Afterwards. I mean, no shit I know why he died and all that. But the movie protrayed none of that. Without the resurrection, it means little to nothing. Sure you can say that it is enough to show tha the died for the sins and all that, but then what would differentiate him from another martyr? Why is Church moreso packed on Easter than on Christmas? The Resurrection is the defining part of Jesus' story. Without portraying that, Passion was just some crappy....for the lack of a better term "snuff" film.
    As others have mentioned, I think the purpose of The Passion was to emphasize the suffering and sacrifice specifically (which I feel it does pretty effectively, for good or ill). I can't blame people for not wanting to see it, but I can blame them for writing it off as a "snuff film" having never laid eyes on a single minute of it. People would praise this film for its subversiveness had it been directed by John Waters.

    Wanting to see more of the story of Jesus' life prior to the crucifixion is a legitimate complaint, though, and I don't begrudge you your opinion.
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    Echoing what many others have said:

    Any Tarantino movie - to varying degrees I think they all suck. I'm particularly going to pick on Kill Bill II. The first Kill Bill is probably my favorite Tarantino movie (thats actually not saying a lot) but the second was hugely boring and dissatisfying, especially the utterly anticlimactic confrontation between Bill and The Bride.

    E.T. I saw this when it first came out. Didn't like it, haven't seen it since.

    Titanic - no explantion needed
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    QT is like that cover band that gets invited to play at the county fair. Sure you know it's not the real band up on the stage, but they play the real band's hits very well. We're not talking weekend practice and a bowl of wheaties. We're talking four-five time a week dedication to detail. We're talking major hobby. Nothing serious. Just for kicks. So you let them slide.

    Until they get that major record deal because the people who signed them hasn't heard nor seen the actual band they cover. Don't even know they exist.

    What's even funnier is that the band gets opening acts. Not only do they play better then the cover band, they're playing original material. Sure, you'll have mediocre bands there as well, but at least they're honest.

    So you watching people buy $200 tickets just to see a mediocre band open for a cover band.

    That is QT.
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