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    Default World War 1: America's on Germany side

    What would have happen in the U.S had entered World War 1 on the side of the Germans. If I remember my history correctly we were considering joining the side of the Germans. Even if it wasn't likely it still could of happened.
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    Not much effect on the actual fighting. The Royal Navy would have prevented American forces from ever landing in Europe.

    The lack of American troops on the Allied side however, would have made victory over Germany far tougher and even defeat more feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusmaac
    Not much effect on the actual fighting. The Royal Navy would have prevented American forces from ever landing in Europe.

    The lack of American troops on the Allied side however, would have made victory over Germany far tougher and even defeat more feasible.
    Let's not forget that a North American theatre would have opened up. I mean, I doubt America is going to come in on Germany's side without making a play for Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusmaac
    Not much effect on the actual fighting. The Royal Navy would have prevented American forces from ever landing in Europe.

    The lack of American troops on the Allied side however, would have made victory over Germany far tougher and even defeat more feasible.
    True, but with the royal navy busy with the Americas and the British now fighting a war on two fronts. I see the german's getting a great advantage here.
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    Britain would have to send troops and navy to India and the Pacific. While America couldn't land in Europe it could probably mess up British colonies something fierce.

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    well id say theirs a strong pobability that the US would try to invade Canada but whose to say it wouldnt be a loosers game like tring to invade Russia. All that snow and the eskinoes are sneeky looking.

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    My educated-ish guess is that with the Germans no longer engaged on the Eastern front and no "doughboys" to act as a stopgap, the Germans would have broken through the Allied lines in 1918.

    Of course, when you add the US harassing Caribbean possessions and possibly making a play for the resource rich western Canada, I think the British/French would be in pretty bad shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traxler
    well id say theirs a strong pobability that the US would try to invade Canada but whose to say it wouldnt be a loosers game like tring to invade Russia. All that snow and the eskinoes are sneeky looking.
    Good point The U.S could also attacked Russia thou Alaska. This could have hurt Russia too. Having them now fighting a war on two fronts.

    I hope we get the war ironed out before this becomes a rumbles thread. I wanted to talk about how this affects history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy
    Good point The U.S could also attacked Russia thou Alaska. This could have hurt Russia too. Having them now fighting a war on two fronts.

    I hope we get the war ironed out before this becomes a rumbles thread. I wanted to talk about how this affects history.
    but wait Russia opts out of the war when they get revolutioned.

    America has no African colonies and in asia only the Philipines (ha see I did this at school) so maybe 2 continents to the Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy
    I hope we get the war ironed out before this becomes a rumbles thread. I wanted to talk about how this affects history.
    What is this, if not a rumbles thread? I'd say alternate history speculation is definitely more rumbles than Comm board.
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    if i was Australia Id launch a sneak attak on Hawaii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadhg Adams
    What is this, if not a rumbles thread? I'd say alternate history speculation is definitely more rumbles than Comm board.

    Well you learn something new everyday. I though rumbles was the battles. The fights. Not history spec, I always felt we were the ones who did that. Considering we are the "politics board"
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    Read the Great War series by Harry Turtledove. The USA joins the Great War on Germany's side against Britain, France, and the Confederate States of America. It's the first war against the CSA that the USA wins, having lost the Civil War and the Second Mexican War.

    The CSA experiences the same repercussions that Germany did in reality; massive war reparations, demilitarization, and hyperinflation that sees one million CSA dollars barely buy a cup of coffee. It takes a misanthropic yet charismatic CSA artillery sergeant with a rabid hatred of blacks to rally his nation, through a combination of rousing speeches and violence against other political parties, and gets elected President of the CSA.

    He covertly rearms his nation, using the excuse that it's for internal security, forces the USA to allow occupied territories to decide if they want to rejoin the CSA (two of them do), dissolves the Supreme Court by forcing them to oppose make-work projects, and then gets the "Seven Words" repealed from the CSA Constitution, allowing him to run for a second term. In the meantime, he's stripping blacks of their civil and human rights, eventually shipping them off to concentration camps.

    He then invades the USA. It's a series of victories until the CSA army gets stuck in Pittsburgh when winter sets in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy
    Well you learn something new everyday. I though rumbles was the battles. The fights. Not history spec, I always felt we were the ones who did that. Considering we are the "politics board"
    Rumbles does do historical speculation when that historical speculation comes down to fighting. Rome vs. China pops up occasionally, and there was a really nasty thread about (IIRC) fencers vs. katana users that ended up getting closed because of flaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy
    What would have happen in the U.S had entered World War 1 on the side of the Germans. If I remember my history correctly we were considering joining the side of the Germans. Even if it wasn't likely it still could of happened.
    The American fleet can't break through the Royal Navy. The real problem for the Allies lies in the lack of American loans for the war effort.
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