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    as algerian i consider my self as an muslim and as arabic than as african

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leirus View Post
    I really do not understand this. If this girls likes this character, the only one in all the X-men universe who is from her country, and who has never been stated in panel to be from any race, who are you to say her that she is wrong? You probably would think that Monet is black even if she is arab, so what is the problem?
    Im going by what the creator has stated as his original intent.

    If Monet was created as arab, I would accept her as arab even if she were colored as being black years later.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    rude.
    supply evidentiary support please.
    and one could argue dropping the F-bomb and speaking in all caps (yelling) can be also seen as rude
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    i am not racist or some thing i am just tring to fix people thoughts about us and M is one of biggest probleme i had

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    monet is algerian paris hilton LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Im going by what the creator has stated as his original intent.
    You are going by what the artist, an american, chose to represent the character Lobdell imagined. Because that is the image most americans have of Algerian people. What you also know, is that Lobdell intent was to make her algerian, the daughter of an existing character who was not black.

    But that does not change my question. If the character has not been stated to be from any race in panel, why do you find irksome that someone from Algeria would think about the character as an arab algerian?
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    Well, I can't say for sure what M is, but I am still black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post

    and one could argue dropping the F-bomb and speaking in all caps (yelling) can be also seen as rude
    Is this an implicative statement (?) as I have done neither.
    Or perhaps you are referring to the poster you were arguing with previously (?)
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    does anyone have the scan from Gen X where Bishop is coming to after being knocked out and he sees M, and the first thing he does is go "Mom?" when he sees her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    Is this an implicative statement (?) as I have done neither.
    Or perhaps you are referring to the poster you were arguing with previously (?)
    It wasn't about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    does anyone have the scan from Gen X where Bishop is coming to after being knocked out and he sees M, and the first thing he does is go "Mom?" when he sees her?
    No but to address that particular moment, Lobdell explained in an interview that M is not Bishop's mother, and was not intended to be, rather he was just teasing fans.

    http://www.sugarbombs.com/genx/lobdell.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    No but to address that particular moment, Lobdell explained in an interview that M is not Bishop's mother, and was not intended to be, rather he was just teasing fans.

    http://www.sugarbombs.com/genx/lobdell.htm
    either way- there's no way that Bishop is confusing anyone not uh- "darker skinned" as his mom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leirus View Post
    You are going by what the artist, an american, chose to represent the character Lobdell imagined. Because that is the image most americans have of Algerian people. What you also know, is that Lobdell intent was to make her algerian, the daughter of an existing character who was not black.

    But that does not change my question. If the character has not been stated to be from any race in panel, why do you find irksome that someone from Algeria would think about the character as an arab algerian?
    Lobdell wrote for Monet for close to 3 years. If what he saw on panel wasnt what he was intending, Im sure that would have been fixed early into the run. She was colored with significantly darker skin throughout the 90s than she was given in X-factor. In fact there was that one scene Lobdell wrote where Bishop momentarily thought she looked like his mother and I think thats bc she was intended to look dark like him. I dont think he would have written that same scene had it been someone like Cable for example

    Anyways, thankfully this is a moot point within the books bc since X-factor 200 she is back to being drawn with darker skin, closer to how she was originally portrayed when she was created

    Why does it irk some people so much to the point that they feel they need to drop f bombs and yell bc some consider her black?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    Is this an implicative statement (?) as I have done neither.
    Or perhaps you are referring to the poster you were arguing with previously (?)
    you quoted something I had written and said it was rude. My response to you was an explanation to that. I wrote what the other poster wrote first could have been considered rude as well. I wasnt saying you were rude

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    either way- there's no way that Bishop is confusing anyone not uh- "darker skinned" as his mom...
    Can't recall that specific image so I can't say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post

    you quoted something I had written and said it was rude. My response to you was an explanation to that. I wrote what the other poster wrote first could have been considered rude as well. I wasnt saying you were rude
    my bad my blunders.
    carry on and many thanks for the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Why does it irk some people so much to the point that they feel they need to drop f bombs and yell bc some consider her black?
    I don't think it was so much that some people "considered" her black, more the implication that she was definitely black and people were wrong to think otherwise.

    I personally don't have a horse in this race, but since it has never been made definitively clear in the comics, I believe it's best to allow everybody to have their own reading.

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    I love monet,
    but I never come here because all you losers have done for 50 pages is argue about her skin tone.



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