Black Panther: Should he have a Animated show?

[Ty19]

Intentions shown...No need to be a hater.

Still not trying to be.

Some like his work some do not, but to say that Marvel tries to isolate his work is totally inaccurate. In fact out side of the one issue with Bendis his "new direction" with BP has been received well throughout Marvel.

It's been a year since Hudlin has written anything that has directly involved the rest of the Marvel Universe. I find it hard to believe Quesada when he states that he is making BP a major player, when in actuality he has kept Hudlin's writing away from anything relevant happening in the rest of Marvel.

And his sales numbers don't imply that BP is well received at all. When you lose 40,000 readers in a year, after all of the money and hype Marvel invested into promoting BP, than I'd assume that the level of enthusiasm towards this project is probably something other than what you claim.

Storm taken away? Or given the people what they want more solo stories with BP and some with Storm in other books. She is involved with the Secret Invasion story line and in a blurb I read some where Marvel/Hudlin have big plans for the royal couple after secret invasion.....................see yall at issue 50.

I don't remember reading requests from a number of readers that ask for BP to have more solo storylines. As far as Storm in other books, there's nothing wrong with that. But if Wolverine, Spiderman and a few other characters can appear in 100 other books at the same time, then why can't Storm simultaneously appear in two books? Hudiln used Photon to help BP defeat Killmonger. Why couldn't, and shouldn't, that have been Storm?

I'll wait and see about these big plans if animated BP flops....and unless they drastically change their gameplan and direction towards something different than already displayed in the trailer, then it appears that Hudiln has a good head start towards halting his vision of BP permanently.

[Loren]

In related news:

LA Times: 'Black Panther' cartoon at BET might battle ethics

Apparently, Hudlin's role as both executive producer and writer of Black Panther *and* BET's President of Entertainment raises some ethical questions, in that he greenlit a show that he will personally profit from. No one involved is willing to comment on Hudlin's compensation for his role in the show.

BTW, the front page of CBR has a couple of other BP-related videos up now. One is the advertisers' promo, and the other is an interview Jonah did with Hudlin and Cowan.

[HepOne]

I thought we were discussing the cartoon?

Its too late to be complaining about Hudlins first arc at this stage. It was written as a film/cartoon pilot and now it is being used as such.

RE: any Priest/Kirby origin complaints= THE FF CANNOT BE USED. They are owned by a different animation company. + You simply cannot launch a Black Panther cartoon with him appearing as a sidekick in his own origin.

When one of you can come up with a new Black Panther origin without using the FF then we can complain.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I thought we were discussing the cartoon?

Its too late to be complaining about Hudlins first arc at this stage. It was written as a film/cartoon pilot and now it is being used as such.

RE: any Priest/Kirby origin complaints= THE FF CANNOT BE USED. They are owned by a different animation company. + You simply cannot launch a Black Panther cartoon with him appearing as a sidekick in his own origin.

When one of you can come up with a new Black Panther origin without using the FF then we can complain.

Well, since ya asked, Priest's telling of Panther's origin didn't really rely on the FF or Klaw ;)

[HepOne]

In related news:

LA Times: 'Black Panther' cartoon at BET might battle ethics

Apparently, Hudlin's role as both executive producer and writer of Black Panther *and* BET's President of Entertainment raises some ethical questions, in that he greenlit a show that he will personally profit from. No one involved is willing to comment on Hudlin's compensation for his role in the show.

Im not sure how I feel about that. Is it unethical or following up your own ideas to a logical conclusion? If you want something done right, do it yourself?

[PKIronMan]

We'll have Black Panther.

Then Black Panther will have a hip black urban sidekick from the mean streets, that provides humorous black stereotype jokes. Like Riley from the Boondocks.

I swear to god this is what is going to happen.

Oh please no no NO. :-/

[HepOne]

Well, since ya asked, Priest's telling of Panther's origin didn't really rely on the FF or Klaw ;)

He still attacked Klaw with the sonic gun ruining his hand, and also tested himself against the FF so Im not sure what your referring to.

[The Cool Thatguy]

He still attacked Klaw with the sonic gun ruining his hand, and also tested himself against the FF so Im not sure what your referring to.

Klaw was basically Joe Chill to Panther, not the main villain. As for the FF, that part can be easily removed while still keeping the basic story. They appeared as only an illusion, not as their true selves. The crux of Priest's story relied on Panther being a mystery.

[Loren]

He still attacked Klaw with the sonic gun ruining his hand, and also tested himself against the FF so Im not sure what your referring to.

'Testing himself' isn't a part of T'Challa's origin. It just happens to be the story that introduced him, both to the reading public and the Marvel Universe. 'Ultimate Avengers 2' was a bad BP origin story for a number of reasons, but the lack of the FF was not one of them. The FF aren't essential to BP's origin any more than the Hulk is essential to Wolverine's.

I suppose you could try to argue that the FF are tied to Klaw's origin, in the sense that they're part of the story where he became solid sound, but even that was just a tag scene at the end of the story, and didn't directly involve the FF.

[HepOne]

Klaw was basically Joe Chill to Panther, not the main villain. As for the FF, that part can be easily removed while still keeping the basic story. They appeared as only an illusion, not as their true selves. The crux of Priest's story relied on Panther being a mystery.

'Testing himself' isn't a part of T'Challa's origin. It just happens to be the story that introduced him, both to the reading public and the Marvel Universe. 'Ultimate Avengers 2' was a bad BP origin story for a number of reasons, but the lack of the FF was not one of them. The FF aren't essential to BP's origin any more than the Hulk is essential to Wolverine's.

I suppose you could try to argue that the FF are tied to Klaw's origin, in the sense that they're part of the story where he became solid sound, but even that was just a tag scene at the end of the story, and didn't directly involve the FF.

I agree with both of you and that is why both the Hudlin version and Ultimate Avengers exists (+Loebs Ultimate Panther). People on this forum and others are crying out for Priests version of his origin. I was simply stating why this is stupid and will not happen.

Priest wrote a version of the character very rooted in the 616 and that includes Klaw, sound gun and the FF just as Joe Chill always kills Batman's parents.

[Nevets F]

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[The Cool Thatguy]

There will not be an issue 50, I can promise you that.

Honestly, I'd be surprised if there wasn't. Marvel's put alot of time and effort into this series, I think they'd hold out for a big number like that.

After 50 will tell the tale, though. Whether they replace Hudlin or just cancel it or try a reboot.

[B. Kuwanger]

Hudlin will be on issue 50, even if 49 sells 312 copies.

And I would respect that. Honestly, he has to be a fan on some level, with probably more passion than a lot of us here, and what's he doing but trying to use his position to expose more people to comics, black superheroes in general, and a cool character in particular. I mean, check out Puff Daddy blogging like a jackass, Reg is like the only person in the world working to prevent that.

[Hatut Zeraze]

Hudlin will be on issue 50, even if 49 sells 312 copies.

And I would respect that.

I wouldn't. I'm having a hard time forgiving Marvel for letting this guy stay on past issue #6.

[Constantine Drakon]

Priest wrote a version of the character very rooted in the 616 and that includes Klaw, sound gun and the FF

Klaw and the Sound Gun, I'll grant you, but the Fantastic Four?

The FF were not part of T'Challa's origin, and it would be childsplay to remove them from the story where Klaw is turned to sound. And I'm not really sure why they can't use the original Klaw, but can use "I can't believe it's not Klaw!", especially if Hudlin intends to use Rhino.