LOST Season 3

[Conn Seanery]

Huh? No "Official"? No "Thread"? Yet here it is! Okay, I made a stink about the last one, I guess it's time to put up or shut up.

So what do people expect for Season 3? Where do they want it to go? Where don't they want it to go? So many questions...

Are Eko and Locke alive? I hope so. Odds are they are, they're too interesting to die.

Why do the Others want Jack, Kate, and Sawyer? Jack's a doctor, his possible value is apparent. What about the other two? If the Others are to be taken at their word (and this is the first time they seem to be completely honest), the trio aren't in any mortal danger. Turn them over to their side? Warm bodies that'll be useful? If the Others are "the good guys", doesn't their selection of Sawyer seem a tad off? Or even Kate? Yeah, we like them, but can we safely call them "good" people? Or "good people that made mistakes"?

Who is faux-Henry? He's clearly in charge of the Others, so who does that make him? Was getting trapped with the Lostaways a part of his plan? Could he be a Hanso? What if he were Alvar Hanso himself? Or Magnus Hanso (dead, according to the door map, but still...)?

Is there any compelling evidence that the Others are working for the Dharma Initiative or the Hanso Foundation, and not against them? The Others seem to be more in the know than the Lostaways, but I don't think there's any concrete evidence to support that they're a part of or responsible for the island's mysteries. Those fake doors really got me wondering.

Is Michael really free? Why'd they give up Walt? I bet everyone and their 4th cousins were expecting this deal to go sour, yet it didn't. Michael got everything he asked for, even his own son, who seemed extremely important to the Others (important enough to steal, even faux-Henry grudgingly admitted that they "got more than they bargained for"). Did they get what they needed out of Walt, and are they actually content to let him go?

What the hell was the deal with that cold climate installation and Desmond's ex? My first thought was that the island wasn't the only Dharma base/bunker series in the world, but that seems unlikely (didn't see any Dharma markings). Why is Penelope looking for a large electromagnetic surge? The people at the cold station let it slip that they'd missed one in the past, was this the original "accident" the orientation films mention? Or Desmond's accident that crashed Oceanic Flight 815?

Holy crap, what was that broken four-toed foot statue doing there? Ya got me, i'm stumped.

Are those notebooks in the message tubes yet another useless task? Sure, it doesn't look doesn't look like they've been picked up in a while, but was Desmond right? Are the observers/recorders of the Dharma stations the test subjects, not them? Are they all test subjects?

Anyway, that's enough to get the ball rolling and i'm sure other people have loads of questions too. I'm gonna enjoy my summer, but I can't wait for fall.

[Deathstroke]

Here's some early news about Season 3, for those who aren't still pulling their hair out for wasting two hours watching the end of Season 2.

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[the film freak]

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Are Eko and Locke alive? I hope so. Odds are they are, they're too interesting to die.

I'm thinking Desmond could be alive too. We never actually saw him die.

Why do the Others want Jack, Kate, and Sawyer? Jack's a doctor, his possible value is apparent. What about the other two? If the Others are to be taken at their word (and this is the first time they seem to be completely honest), the trio aren't in any mortal danger. Turn them over to their side? Warm bodies that'll be useful? If the Others are "the good guys", doesn't their selection of Sawyer seem a tad off? Or even Kate? Yeah, we like them, but can we safely call them "good" people? Or "good people that made mistakes"?

I think the Others are doing a series of cruel and complicated Love Triangle experiments. I'm not sure what they are after but these three seem to be ones in charge. But that doesn't explain why didn't go after Locke or Sayid.

Who is faux-Henry? He's clearly in charge of the Others, so who does that make him? Was getting trapped with the Lostaways a part of his plan? Could he be a Hanso? What if he were Alvar Hanso himself? Or Magnus Hanso (dead, according to the door map, but still...)?

I think he's one of the guys in charge. I don't think he's the guy.

Is there any compelling evidence that the Others are working for the Dharma Initiative or the Hanso Foundation, and not against them? The Others seem to be more in the know than the Lostaways, but I don't think there's any concrete evidence to support that they're a part of or responsible for the island's mysteries. Those fake doors really got me wondering.

That's where I'm leaning. We learned the button is for real. But the Others don't seem to be interested in it.

Is Michael really free? Why'd they give up Walt? I bet everyone and their 4th cousins were expecting this deal to go sour, yet it didn't. Michael got everything he asked for, even his own son, who seemed extremely important to the Others (important enough to steal, even faux-Henry grudgingly admitted that they "got more than they bargained for"). Did they get what they needed out of Walt, and are they actually content to let him go?

They seemed to even make a point that Michael did get away with murdering Libby and Ana Lucia to get his own son back. I think Michael or at least Walt will be back. I think they were hoping to use Walt against whatever the Dharma INitiative is up.

What the hell was the deal with that cold climate installation and Desmond's ex? My first thought was that the island wasn't the only Dharma base/bunker series in the world, but that seems unlikely (didn't see any Dharma markings). Why is Penelope looking for a large electromagnetic surge? The people at the cold station let it slip that they'd missed one in the past, was this the original "accident" the orientation films mention? Or Desmond's accident that crashed Oceanic Flight 815?

I posted before I think Desmond's boat got caught in some sort electromagnetic surge. I think she might be looking for Desmond.

Holy crap, what was that broken four-toed foot statue doing there? Ya got me, i'm stumped.

Maybe Sawyer was right about the aliens. There is alien tech on the island causing all this electromagnetic activity and the people who lived on the island hundreds of years ago built a statue to them thinking they were gods.

Are those notebooks in the message tubes yet another useless task? Sure, it doesn't look doesn't look like they've been picked up in a while, but was Desmond right? Are the observers/recorders of the Dharma stations the test subjects, not them? Are they all test subjects?

Could be. I'm just curious why would they bother have someone recording this when the button is for real. It's hard to nail down what the Dharma Initiative's ultimate goal.

Also they are talking about adding some new characters. Hopefully a few of the other castaways will step forward especially with Jack & Sawyer captured by the Others. That's something that disappointed me this season where we didn't get a sense of what the other 30 or so people on the island were thinking.

[JDogindy]

Here's some early news about Season 3, for those who aren't still pulling their hair out for wasting two hours watching the end of Season 2.

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Thanks, Stroke.

Hmm. Seems every time the button isn't pressed every 108 minutes, an explosion occurs, and something bad happens in the world as well.

I didn't get to see much of the episode because of my bedtime, but I did see Locke talking to the guy who was stuck at the Swan for three years and him suggesting finding out what happens when the button isn't pressed.

I did find out that Mr. Friendly isn't in charge.... and he also has a little "outside help" if you know what I mean.

[NDHorse]

I have doubts about Walt coming back to the show. The actor who plays him is now, I'm guessing, about 12 or 13 years old. His natural aging won't coincide with the roughly 30 days per season timeline. By the fifth or sixth season when his character should only be 13 years old, the actor will be about 16 or 17. He won't look right.

With that, maybe Michael will be back without Walt in tow.

[The Foreigner]

One point that people seem to keep forgetting in all of the finale discussions I've seen online was Sayid pulling open the other hatch doors at the Others and finding out that it's fake; it was just rock behind the doors. So why were they have armed guards standing in front of it?

I thought it was a very good episode. The final moment with Penelope on the phone was a great way to end the season.

[Loren]

I'm thinking Desmond could be alive too. We never actually saw him die.

The more I've thought about it, the more I think that Desmond must have survived. Firstly, there's the lack of a body (which also applies to Locke and Eko). He said goodbye to Locke with the same "See you in another life, brother" line, and his last thoughts were about Penny's letter where she wrote that you can't die if someone loves you.

More importantly, since the season ended with Penny, right after revealing that she's had a scheme to locate Desmond, it'd be a massive downer for her to get that revelation, launch a search for him, and only learn that he's dead.

And just in case anybody was partial to Desmond's theory that the rest of the world was gone (despite the Lost tie-in websites to the contrary), that final segment pretty well proves that there's still life outside the island.

[Mac Danny]

One point that people seem to keep forgetting in all of the finale discussions I've seen online was Sayid pulling open the other hatch doors at the Others and finding out that it's fake; it was just rock behind the doors. So why were they have armed guards standing in front of it?

I thought it was a very good episode. The final moment with Penelope on the phone was a great way to end the season.

the people living in the huts, the guards on the fake doors were all stage dressing for Michael to see. Seems none of the people outside the others can know what the others really do.

-Dan

[Mac Danny]

Why do the Others want Jack, Kate, and Sawyer? Jack's a doctor, his possible value is apparent. What about the other two? If the Others are to be taken at their word (and this is the first time they seem to be completely honest), the trio aren't in any mortal danger. Turn them over to their side? Warm bodies that'll be useful? If the Others are "the good guys", doesn't their selection of Sawyer seem a tad off? Or even Kate? Yeah, we like them, but can we safely call them "good" people? Or "good people that made mistakes"?

I think a good reason they wanted those three was that they took away three of the leaders of the camp. People in conrtol and in the know. Unfortunalty they forgot about Sayid.. Ohh are they going to be sorry they forgot about him...

Who is faux-Henry? He's clearly in charge of the Others, so who does that make him? Was getting trapped with the Lostaways a part of his plan? Could he be a Hanso? What if he were Alvar Hanso himself? Or Magnus Hanso (dead, according to the door map, but still...)?

I always thought magnus hanso was a Pirate and captain of the black rock. which is how Alvar Hanso knew of the island as a secluded place with strange goings on.

What the hell was the deal with that cold climate installation and Desmond's ex? My first thought was that the island wasn't the only Dharma base/bunker series in the world, but that seems unlikely (didn't see any Dharma markings). Why is Penelope looking for a large electromagnetic surge? The people at the cold station let it slip that they'd missed one in the past, was this the original "accident" the orientation films mention? Or Desmond's accident that crashed Oceanic Flight 815?

I have believed for a while now, that not pushing the button sends out a magnetic pull that drags in nearby vessesls. Danielle's Ship, desmonds boat, flight 815, etc. It will be interesting to see what this system failure brought in.

I think Pennelope was looking for desmond. I think after pouring over his projected course and all other informatin from the day he was lost (this is assuming he had to make regualr radio contact in order to be part of the race.) that the only thing that stuck out was a strange EM anomaly. Given that this was the ony thing that was out of place I guess she spent considerable money and time trying to find a similar anomaly and consequently Desmond. I love desomond's Character. really I hope he isn't dead.

When does season 3 start??

[hulahulk]

Who wants to bet that Season 3 will start on 9/22? Dang, that's a Friday, according to my calendar....:D

Anyways, great episode. Clancy Brown's role was very interesting. Sayid will certainly play a part in getting the three back from the Others.

I, too, think that Penelope is involved in finding Desmond. Perhaps her father is funding the Hanso Foundation, and she ends up disowning her father because of it?

[Loren]

I have believed for a while now, that not pushing the button sends out a magnetic pull that drags in nearby vessesls. Danielle's Ship, desmonds boat, flight 815, etc. It will be interesting to see what this system failure brought in.

That reminds me, how many vessels do we know have unintentionally ended up on the island?

- Oceanic Flight 815
- Desmond's boat
- Danielle's ship
- Henry Gale's balloon
- Eko's brother's plane

And maybe the Black Rock? Any others?

[Conn Seanery]

Oh, I get that Penelope's looking for Desmond, that was never in doubt. But why is she specifically looking for electromagnetic anomalies? It's easy to go back to her "If you have enough money, you can find anyone" comment, but you gotta wonder how she thought to look for that? If she was looking for Desmond, would she have known that he disappeared at the same time as an EM surge, and would she have enough sense to keep an eye out for more? Seems like an odd lead, but I guess it's one she'd follow if she can afford it.

[hulahulk]

Locke, Ecko, and Desmond surely are alive. For Locke and Ecko, they have seen too much on the island on their own for them to just be wiped out. As strong characters, I think they still have important roles to play.

[Nessor Sille]

According to the book "Bad Twin", the Widmore family has strong ties to the Hanso Foundation.

Since the book is a "story within the story", it's hard to know if that's canon or not...but it may be.

[ragnarok_2012]

If Michael and Walt make it back to civilization, then Penelope will certainly find them and grill them.

I for one look forward to watching whatever lame story Michael comes up with disintegrate.

The four-toed Colossus of Rhodes-ish statue was freaky. So was the fake hatch.

I'm of the opinion that the series is a psychological experiment crafted by JJ Abrams to keep people interested in watching the advertisements. I know I was paying a little too much attention to the real advertisements waiting for the fake Hanso one.