OMG! watch this women go off on Muslims on Al-Jezeera (VIDEO)

[Deathlok]

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/200...360.asp?ai=214 &ar=1050wmv&ak=null


I think she is right!

[Jeff Brady]

You hit a space in the link.

Samurai posted this over at YABS, and I'll echo my comment here:

That's pretty damned impressive.

[Naldo]

What's YABS?

Could someone please post the entire link? :)

[Michael P]

No, I really don't think I do.

[Iangould]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ent/columnists

An astounding video is circulating on the Web: an interview aired on Al-Jazeera, in Arabic, on Feb. 21. The discussion was translated, and the clip edited and posted, by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI -- more on what that is in a minute). The discussion is between a woman, an Arab-American psychologist named Wafa Sultan, speaking from Los Angeles, and a man, a Muslim religious leader named Ibrahim Al-Khouli.

It is moderated by a host. The clip that is circulating (in Arabic, with English subtitles), is mostly of Sultan making an emotional and eloquent speech, in a booming, liturgical voice, about the failures of Islam. For the most part, her opponent listens politely, interjecting only once to ask her if she is a heretic (because if she is, he doesn't want to play any more).

The segment is fascinating for several reasons. Sultan's views are quite shocking, and would even be shocking on Western television shows. She admits to being a "secular being," by which she obviously means an atheist: "I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it." She says the conflict between Islam and the West is one ". . . between civilization and backwardness . . . between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings." The host prods her, asking if she means to say that the clash is between ". . . the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?" She does not hesitate before replying, "Yes, that is what I mean."

Yikes. These are brave statements for any Westerner to make, let alone for a Syrian Arab (who is presumably a former Muslim, or at least culturally a Muslim). Note that Sultan is not making the customary qualification that she is only talking about extremist Muslims or Islamists -- she is talking about all Muslims. Yikes! And it is equally brave of Al-Jazeera to air such statements. Al-Jazeera is usually castigated here in North America as being violently biased towards Islamists, for allowing inflammatory anti-Semitic views to be voiced on air, and for providing a propaganda outlet for terrorists by airing their horrifying videos. This is why there was so much controversy over the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission's move to allow Al-Jazeera to be broadcast in Canada; the decision was opposed by several Jewish groups. (You still can't get Al-Jazeera on cable, as no network has wanted to take on the conditions of broadcasting that the CRTC imposed. You can watch it on satellite, if you know how.)

<<So can we put to bed the idea that Al Jazeera is nothing more than a mouth-piece for Al Qaeda yet?>>

[Michael P]

She says the conflict between Islam and the West is one ". . . between civilization and backwardness . . . between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship.

If both she and Robert E. Howard are right, we're fucked.

[Iangould]

I think she is right!

Yes well I'll give your view on this matter the consideration it deserves given your previous posts on other topics.

[Spike-X]

Sultan's views are quite shocking, and would even be shocking on Western television shows. She admits to being a "secular being," by which she obviously means an atheist: "I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it." She says the conflict between Islam and the West is one ". . . between civilization and backwardness . . . between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings." The host prods her, asking if she means to say that the clash is between ". . . the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?" She does not hesitate before replying, "Yes, that is what I mean."

Jesus.

I hope her will's up to date.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

The host prods her, asking if she means to say that the clash is between ". . . the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?" She does not hesitate before replying, "Yes, that is what I mean."

It's the Freedom 'they' hate though.

Not the lack of respect.

Al-Jazeera is usually castigated here in North America as being violently biased towards Islamists, for allowing inflammatory anti-Semitic views to be voiced on air, and for providing a propaganda outlet for terrorists by airing their horrifying videos. This is why there was so much controversy over the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission's move to allow Al-Jazeera to be broadcast in Canada; the decision was opposed by several Jewish groups. (You still can't get Al-Jazeera on cable, as no network has wanted to take on the conditions of broadcasting that the CRTC imposed. You can watch it on satellite, if you know how.)

<<So can we put to bed the idea that Al Jazeera is nothing more than a mouth-piece for Al Qaeda yet?>>

I always thought Al Jazeera was the Middle Easts equivilant of Fox News.
The only reason they got such a bum rap from The Whitehouse/Fox is that they reported the other side of the Iraq war - you know, about how many innocent people were getting killed and lives destroyed etc.

[Jeff Brady]

What's YABS?

You'll All Be Sorry, Gail Simone's board here at CBR.

Could someone please post the entire link? :)

Just copy & paste into your browser, and delete the space.

[Deathlok]

Yes well I'll give your view on this matter the consideration it deserves given your previous posts on other topics.

whats wrong with having an opinion.... that woman is RIGHT!!!!!! I have been saying this for years damnit! I am GLAD this women is speaking the truth!

[Paul McEnery]

The simple answer is that saying something like that makes one sound like a bigoted moron.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

whats wrong with having an opinion.... that woman is RIGHT!!!!!! I have been saying this for years damnit! I am GLAD this women is speaking the truth!

". . . the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?"

That's right?

Wow, see I thought it was fucked up and ignorant, but if the 'MIRL supreme' says otherwise, then I guess it's the truth.

[Charles RB]

Wow, see I thought it was fucked up and ignorant, but if the 'MIRL supreme' says otherwise, then I guess it's the truth.

Nah, the MIRL supreme hasn't. Deathlok, on the other hand...

[Iangould]

Amongst her statements:

"The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people."

Yeah, except for that guy who killed a bunch of people at the dome of the rock. And the guy who shot up a bus full of arabs a few months back...and the guys who murdered Folk Bernadotte...and the Israeli soldiers few years back who smeared shit all over a Koran while occupying a mosque...and the Israeli army officers who authorised the air attack on worhsippers leaving a mosque in order to kill sheikh Yasin...and...

"The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy."

Yeah all those Muslims in the southern provinces of Thailand who "die in custody" are obviously beating themsleves to death to make their Buddhist neighbours look bad.

Same for the several hundred Muslism who died in anti-muslim riots in Burma last year.

and the muslim victims of the Gujarati riots

and the muslims killed by Christian Dayaks and Ambonese in Indonesia

and the hundred or so muslims killed in southern Nigeria in the last couple of weeks

and the thousands of muslims killed by the "Christian" Lord's Resistance Army.

I guess the muslims in Srebrenica all shot themselves to make the Christians look bad too.