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    Default Beast, Gambit NOT DEAD!!

    Think about it , these are the two of the most popular marvel characters. They will probably come back as one of Apocalypse's henchmen (he told Sinister that he had to get 10 mutants)

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    Aww you totally got my hopes up :/

    Beast was a Bendis death which means he was a cheap attempt at an emotional jab/forced character development for other characters, so I don't think he thought that far ahead.

    I think his death will be revealed to be another illusion though. Ultimate Mastermind anyone? As for Gambit, we're not sure. We never actually saw him being buried. It's possible his kinetic powers could do something weird with stopping/starting his heart every once in a while.

    I wouldn't have anyone dead in UXM right now. It's only issue 67! Maybe sometime after issue 100. Right now, only the more minor characters should be killed.

    The Apocalypse idea was one too, though. But what Sinister was "talking" about was some transformation that he would undergo, presumably into a more powerful and intelligent 616-like state, as a new take on how he got his "Powers".

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    I thought Apocalspe wanted 10 mutants to have like 10 horsemen ,which would be too kool, but you could be right too

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    I'm mighty sure beast and gambit and dead. gambit has more of a shot at returning that beast does without some miraculous hokey retcon action.

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    No fair getting people's hopes up. And the theories that Beast and Gambit would return as Horsemen of Apocalypse at some point is long running one. Beast would even make sense, given he could be 'Dark Beast'. :)
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    Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)

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    I thought Apocalspe wanted 10 mutants to have like 10 horsemen ,which would be too kool, but you could be right too
    I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.

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    I still think Hank is alive, out there trying to live a 'normal' life. Xavier knew he was unhappy as a 'hero' and since this Xavier is more manipulative, though not necessarily an utter bastard, he telepathically projected an image of Hank being crushed, letting Hannk go and live free of the X-Men. Perhaps with a SHIELD image inducer or something to hide his appearance.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleficentogre
    I'm mighty sure beast and gambit and dead. gambit has more of a shot at returning that beast does without some miraculous hokey retcon action.
    Beast was a Bendis death, and thus can be safely reversed. I mean, what could you accuse bringing Beast back from the dead of, being disrespectful of the author who killed him off? That'd be kind of funny.

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    Since apocalyse wanted ten mutants he now has 7, the four sinister killed and Beast and Gambit

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    I mean six

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    I think it is possible that Beast's dying may be one of those wehre Xavier fakes it just to be left alone and annoy Storm. Although...

    Beast was a Bendis death which means he was a cheap attempt at an emotional jab/forced character development for other characters, so I don't think he thought that far ahead.
    I totally agree with that, he did that on Ultimate Spdier-Man with Gwen and then he had no idea of what to do next, so he took the chance to kill Beast on UXM since he was leaving on the next issue so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

    Gambit's death was weird, and since Rogue has his concioussness there are ways in which he might come back.
    I'm not fond of the Apocalypse theory though, but anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinderel
    I still think Hank is alive, out there trying to live a 'normal' life. Xavier knew he was unhappy as a 'hero' and since this Xavier is more manipulative, though not necessarily an utter bastard, he telepathically projected an image of Hank being crushed, letting Hannk go and live free of the X-Men. Perhaps with a SHIELD image inducer or something to hide his appearance.

    Just a thought.
    Man, that's actually a good one. Ult. Prof X is still such an unexplored character, as are all of them. Who knows what he has up his sleeve?

    This is actually the best idea I've seen for Ult Beast's revival, better than the Horseman theory since that is really, stinkin' old.

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    I hate speculative threads with titles that sound like news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandoz
    Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)


    I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.

    Funny note;

    There were orignaly 5.

    The 5th being Conquest.

    And my guess is the othe rmutants were to be used as body parts fo Apocalpyse or soemthing. (Be a funky Frankenstein's Creature style bad guy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandoz
    Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)


    I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.
    agreed. i'm glad they died. i don't want anybody coming back. keep them dead

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