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    Default If there was an Astonishing Spider-Man book....

    Let's say Marvel decides to top DC's "All-Star" franchise, by turning Astonishing X-Men into a franchise of the stories of a-list Marvel licenses by a-list creators, and they're going to do an Astonishing Spider-Man book, by creators on par with Whedon & Cassady, Miller & Lee, and Morrison & Quitely. The basic idea would be a high profile accessible Spider-Man book, which hits the Top 5 every month.

    What creators shouild Marvel go after for the book?

    My list. The writers.

    Mark Millar- He's one of the industry's biggest writers, and his twelve issue arc arc of Marvel Knights Spider-Man featured almost everything to love about Spider-Man, and was pretty much a Spider-Man artist's wet dream. He's written before about how he'd love to do more with the character, because all of the ideas he's come up with for the character while writing his first epic.

    Roger Stern- He's almost universally considered the second best Spider-Man writer (after Stan lee of course) so he'd be the perfect writer for an All-Star Spider-Man type book. It would be wise to have it set while Peter Parker's still single, because Stern's not a fan of married Spider-Man. As for whether a book like this would survive when so many "Untold Tales" series have failed with the character, one need only look at the success of All-Star Batman & Robin/ All-Star Superman, Justice, or the Ultimate books. The one difference between it, and an Ultimate book would be that the events depicted could impact the regular books (ie- a new villain introduced for a storyline may come out of prison for a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man arc.)

    Jeph Loeb- His writing on Jim Lee's Batman wasn't the strongest, but it was the best-selling book of the month almost every time it came out, and one reason for this was that Loeb knew what fans wanted Jim Lee to draw. His twelve issues of Batman run included Killer Croc, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, the Huntress, Robin, Nightwing, Superman, Harley Wuinn, the Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, the Riddler, and more (which may be one reason why it was more successful than Azarello's Superman run.) His previous Spider-Man work, the Blue mini-series was enjoyable, especially with the variety of situations he placed Spider-Man in.

    Dan Slott- He's an excellent writer, who wrote one of the best Spider-Man stories ever with Spider-Man/ Human Torch. A book like this could help his profile, but as a rule he would have to collaborate with an amazing a-list artist for the project to get the profile it deserves.

    Steve Ditko- Probably an impossibility, but it would be an astoundingly big deal.

    Kevin Smith-
    He wrote a great Spider-Man in the first three issues of his Black Cat mini series, but the latter three issues were still not worth the wait. I'd want him to have a lot of lead time on this book, and he better make a hell of a pitch.

    Joss Whedon- Because apparantly he wants to follow-up Astonishing X-Men with a Spider-Man run with Bryan Hitch.

    The artists.
    Bryan Hitch- See above. He's also one of Marvel's best artists, with Ultimates 2 having some of the best art ever done in the comic book form.

    Steve Ditko- Don't tell me it wouldn't be an astoundingly big deal.

    John Romita Sr- Perhaps the most popular Spider-Man artist ever. This would a great capper to one of the best careers in comics.

    Todd Mcfarlane- One of the moist popular Spider-Man artists ever. A one year run on a title like this would help his reputation (and help him turn Spawn into a best-selling book again), and let's face it- he may need the money (he lost two major lawsuits recently, and his three million dollar baseball plummeted in value.) Watch his Spider-Man run outsell Jim Lee's Batman.

    John Romita Jr- One of the best Spider-Man artists ever. He's said that he's waiting to return to the title, and I'd love it if he was given the opportunity to draw Spider-Man with his greatest allies, greatest enemies, and lots of new villains (as opposed to four issue arcs with Spider-Man VS new villains.)

    David Finch- The man drew an excellent Spider-Man in New Avengers, and a Spider-Man Unlimited issue.

    Neal Adams- He's probably the best regarded comic artist alive, who has not worked on Spider-Man. And it would be a great coup for Marvel with the talk that he'll follow Jim Lee on All-Star Batman & Robin.

    What do you guys think? Could you see yourselves buying a book like this? Could you see a lot of other people buying a book like this?

    One small detail. This book would differ from the new "Sensational Spider-Man" simply because it would have more popular creators, and because it will be independent from the other Spider books (ie- can be set in different eras.) I see Sensational Spider-Man as a book where creators you wouldn't associate with the character are given the opportunity to tell great stories. I also see it as more of a breakout book.

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    I agree with all the names on your list except Kevin Smith.I've never really been a fan of any of his stuff,and I find him a little over-rated.

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    I'd have Stan Lee co-write an issue with Bendis. Man, that would be one messed up storyline.
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    I don't know if I could handle ANOTHER Spider-man monthly, especially with Civil War coming up, lol!!! ;)

    The only reason I wouldn't want JRJR on this book is because he should be pencilling Amazing Spider-Man, the flagship title! lol, ;)

    Here are my picks, just because they were left off you're list.

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    Ed Brubaker

    It would be really cool to see what Brubaker could do with Spider-Man, and his incredible rogues gallery. I think he could write a KICK ASS story with the new Mac Gargan Venom!

    Penciler:

    Steve McNiven

    His work on New Avengers has been Kick ASS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Web_Spinner
    I don't know if I could handle ANOTHER Spider-man monthly, especially with Civil War coming up, lol!!! ;)

    The only reason I wouldn't want JRJR on this book is because he should be pencilling Amazing Spider-Man, the flagship title! lol, ;)

    Here are my picks, just because they were left off you're list.

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    Ed Brubaker

    It would be really cool to see what Brubaker could do with Spider-Man, and his incredible rogues gallery. I think he could write a KICK ASS story with the new Mac Gargan Venom!

    Penciler:

    Steve McNiven

    His work on New Avengers has been Kick ASS!!!!
    I wouldn't want Brubaker because he hates the Spidey marriage (see his Millarworld posts). Totally wrong writer for Spidey.

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    damn. Whats with the marriage haters anyway! Lazy writers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam1
    I wouldn't want Brubaker because he hates the Spidey marriage (see his Millarworld posts). Totally wrong writer for Spidey.
    That's a shame. I very liked his Spider-Man What If story.
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    This is truly a dream-team, and the likelyhood of this actually happening is very close to zero but just for the hell of it...

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    Neil Gaiman: I cannot begin to imagine the kind of stories Gaiman could come up with using the character, his enemies and his friends, but I can gurantee one thing, it will be amazing, spectacular, sensational and any other adjective you want to throw in there.

    Artist
    Greg Land: Pheonix Endsong was one of the prettiest books I have ever seen. Ultimate Fantastic Four has the best art in the entire ultimate line (yes, it even beats Hitch's Ultimates). And Land's MJ will make everybody a Spidey fan... guranteed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberman
    Let's say Marvel decides to top DC's "All-Star" franchise, by turning Astonishing X-Men into a franchise of the stories of a-list Marvel licenses by a-list creators, and they're going to do an Astonishing Spider-Man book, by creators on par with Whedon & Cassady, Miller & Lee, and Morrison & Quitely. The basic idea would be a high profile accessible Spider-Man book, which hits the Top 5 every month.

    Mark Millar
    Roger Stern
    Jeph Loeb[/B]-
    Dan Slott-
    Steve Ditko-
    Kevin Smith-
    Joss Whedon-
    The artists.
    Bryan Hitch-
    Steve Ditko
    John Romita Sr-
    [B]Todd Mcfarlane
    [B]John Romita
    David Finch

    Neal Adams
    I think neither Slott nor Smith belong on this list: ( Smith's comic rep is tarnished by his unbelievable tardiness and at this point his name will most likely scare off potential buyers; and Slott is a decent scribe but his books don't sell, I doubt Marvel would risk a huge-profile book event like this thing you mention, on a non-name.

    Everyone else you mentioned have either the sales clout or the industry gravitas and leverage to make such a book a huge deal.

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    Alan Moore and Alex Ross.

    A man can dream, can't he?

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    was happy to see so many responses so fast.
    Two creators I forgot.

    Jae Lee- The Dark Tower is going to be the biggest comics event of 2007, and the man has some free time before that (and perhaps between Dark Tower mini series.)

    Brian Michael Bendis- He's Marvel's most popular writer. The only concern of having him on the book is whether it would hurt/ be lessened by Ultimate Spider-Man. If Roger Stern were on the book, Bendis may make a great cowriter (just to make it seem more contemporary.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Chinchalinchin
    Alan Moore and Alex Ross.

    A man can dream, can't he?
    Alex Ross will be busy for the next two years with Justice. But that would be an insanely awesome team for 2009.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Syndicate
    This is truly a dream-team, and the likelyhood of this actually happening is very close to zero but just for the hell of it...

    Writer:
    Neil Gaiman: I cannot begin to imagine the kind of stories Gaiman could come up with using the character, his enemies and his friends, but I can gurantee one thing, it will be amazing, spectacular, sensational and any other adjective you want to throw in there.

    Artist
    Greg Land: Pheonix Endsong was one of the prettiest books I have ever seen. Ultimate Fantastic Four has the best art in the entire ultimate line (yes, it even beats Hitch's Ultimates). And Land's MJ will make everybody a Spidey fan... guranteed....
    You know what? That would be an awesome team, and I'm kicking myself for not thinking of either of them.



    Quote Originally Posted by Web_Spinner
    I don't know if I could handle ANOTHER Spider-man monthly, especially with Civil War coming up, lol!!! ;)

    The only reason I wouldn't want JRJR on this book is because he should be pencilling Amazing Spider-Man, the flagship title! lol, ;)

    Here are my picks, just because they were left off you're list.

    Writer:

    Ed Brubaker

    It would be really cool to see what Brubaker could do with Spider-Man, and his incredible rogues gallery. I think he could write a KICK ASS story with the new Mac Gargan Venom!

    Penciler:

    Steve McNiven

    His work on New Avengers has been Kick ASS!!!!

    Brubaker may be a worthy writer, especially if his X-Men run becomes insanely succesful. He may not be "big" enough yet, but I see that changing within months.
    The only reason I didn't list McNiven is his upcoming work on Civil War/ Ultimate X-men, but when he's done with that he can launch

    Quote Originally Posted by jam1
    I wouldn't want Brubaker because he hates the Spidey marriage (see his Millarworld posts). Totally wrong writer for Spidey.
    Since the book's essentially a response to the popularity of the All-Star books, it could just be set in any era (my plan with Stern anyway.)


    Quote Originally Posted by EmmettHULK
    I think neither Slott nor Smith belong on this list: ( Smith's comic rep is tarnished by his unbelievable tardiness and at this point his name will most likely scare off potential buyers; and Slott is a decent scribe but his books don't sell, I doubt Marvel would risk a huge-profile book event like this thing you mention, on a non-name.

    Everyone else you mentioned have either the sales clout or the industry gravitas and leverage to make such a book a huge deal.
    I admit that Slott would need a hell of an artist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Syndicate
    This is truly a dream-team, and the likelyhood of this actually happening is very close to zero but just for the hell of it...

    Writer:
    Neil Gaiman: I cannot begin to imagine the kind of stories Gaiman could come up with using the character, his enemies and his friends, but I can gurantee one thing, it will be amazing, spectacular, sensational and any other adjective you want to throw in there.

    Artist
    Greg Land: Pheonix Endsong was one of the prettiest books I have ever seen. Ultimate Fantastic Four has the best art in the entire ultimate line (yes, it even beats Hitch's Ultimates). And Land's MJ will make everybody a Spidey fan... guranteed....
    I agree with you, but if someone of the people who post on the Ultimates boards reads this they are gonna flame your ass off because they label Greg Land as a "tracer", i find his art really suitable for an All Star type marvel project, but i don't think he's a big name...yet. as for my dream team:

    Writer: Cristopher Priest

    Artist: Jhon Romita Jr. (or Mark Bagley)

    I've always had the curiosity to read a Priest-written Spiderman project since he did excelent runs on both Deadpool and Black Phanter a couple of years ago. and i think that Jhon Jr. and Bags are the definitive Spidey artist, since they have kept working on the characters for so long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberman

    ....I admit that Slott would need a hell of an artist.
    True, but I was just going by your All-Star analogy.
    All-Star books so far have used superstar sellers for both art AND writing...(Lee,Miller,Morrison, Quitely), that's why if Marvel wanted to follow that model, they would probably not use Slott, even if they paired him with a superstar artist on a superstar character (don't forget that even Slott's Human Torch/Spidey bombed)...they will want an iron-clad guarantee that the book will sell... truckloads.

    BTW...I like the idea of Alex Ross and Bendis.
    Bendis knows his way around Peter, and both creators are currently hotter than hot with top five hits(New Avengers,Justice)
    That would be the epitome of All-Star at least in terms of sales...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmettHULK
    True, but I was just going by your All-Star analogy.
    All-Star books so far have used superstar sellers for both art AND writing...(Lee,Miller,Morrison, Quitely), that's why if Marvel wanted to follow that model, they would probably not use Slott, even if they paired him with a superstar artist on a superstar character (don't forget that even Slott's Human Torch/Spidey bombed)...they will want an iron-clad guarantee that the book will sell... truckloads.

    BTW...I like the idea of Alex Ross and Bendis.
    Bendis knows his way around Peter, and both creators are currently hotter than hot with top five hits(New Avengers,Justice)
    That would be the epitome of All-Star at least in terms of sales...
    One thing that's worth noting with Justice is that it's a Top-5 success/ pretty much honorary All-Star title. with an A-List franchise (like Spider-Man), an A-List artist, and a respected writer who isn't really popular. So there is a precedent for an All-Star book where the artist is a lot more popular than the writer. The artist still has to be insanely popular (Ditko, Romita Sr, Mcfarlane, Adams) even more so than anyone else who'd be accepted for the book. And the writer has to be respected (Kreuger had Earth X under his belt, and that's made a few Top 100 lists.)
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    Well since it would have to be a really a-list book it would have to have big a-list names. The only big a-list writer that I know can write Spider-man well is Mark Millar.
    As for artist I would have to say either Mark Bagley or David Finch.

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